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Reply With QuoteHonestly jail is probably the best way to actually get someone off of heroin.
Racked up $7000 in credit card debt. He is a heroin addict and this is a firmiliar pattern with him and other family members.
Do I report him? He has a criminal history and will likely spend over a year in jail.
I'm not close at all with him... but I've been to jail for a few days and it ain't too nice.
Honestly jail is probably the best way to actually get someone off of heroin.
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Tough love. The prison system isn't wonderful and he'll probably learn a few more tricks to the criminal trade but I tend to agree that jail is probably the best place available to him to get off the smack.
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I'm not sure jail really is the best place to come off drugs due to the erm, large ammounts of free time and boredom and the large quantities of heroin.
The broad masses of a nation are always more easily corrupted in the deeper strata of their emotional nature than consciously or voluntarily; and thus in the primitive simplicity of their minds they more readily fall victims to the big lie than the small lie, since they themselves often tell small lies in little matters but would be ashamed to resort to large-scale falsehoods. It would never come into their heads to fabricate colossal untruths, and they would not believe that others could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously. Even though the facts which prove this to be so may be brought clearly to their minds, they will still doubt and waver and will continue to think that there may be some other explanation. For the grossly impudent lie always leaves traces behind it, even after it has been nailed down, a fact which is known to all expert liars in this world and to all who conspire together in the art of lying. These people know only too well how to use falsehood for the basest purposes... Adolf Hitler
How much heroin is in prison?
It's not like it can be made like crack. It would have to be smuggled in. Is heroin smuggling into prison a large problem? I've not heard of it.
Your mind can only hold one thought at a time. Make it a positive and constructive one.
~ H. Jackson Brown Jr.
I would decide based on what hardship $7,000 caused me and/or how many times you've dealt with him taking advantage of you. If that is going to take you years to pay off and he knew it, I would be like fuck that, and report it. Because obviously he knew he was screwing you, if that's the case, and has no regard for you. However, if it hurts your feelings more than anything else, maybe consider it a cry for help and try to help get him treatment have this be Strike One.
I have dealt with the family drug problems before myself and I've put up with enough, love ya, but I refuse to be taken advantage of in that way-- if you expect familial love you have to give some.
He showed blatant disregard for you, his own family, it's probably an easier charge than what he'll eventually get screwing over the next person who he has no ties to.
Yeah.. I have a hard time feeling compassionate toward people who take advantage of me, family or not. Identity theft is serious, and $7,000 is serious, and if it were my own brother I'm not sure I could just let that go and not do anything about it. I wouldn't want him to go to jail though, either... BUT... "familiar pattern?" He's done things like this to the family before? He's never going to stop then. So he's going to end up in jail eventually, or end up killing himself, in the process hurting your family even more. At that point I'd report him to protect the family and to try and snap some sense into him.
Too right drugs are a problem in prison. You've got 3.2% of the adult population in them right now in the US (That's like 1 in 30!!!) and half of those people in there are in for drug offences. Prison has drug dealers just like the outside world (hell, there's probably like 1:4 ratio of drug dealers in there!) and if you can get a nice smack supply then you get power. So you have gangs getting drugs smuggled into prison and selling it to the smackheads in there are certainly aren't getting any form of decent drug rehabilitation. Between 2006 and 2008, 44 inmates in Californian prisoners died from drug overdoses. It's not relatively easy to get mobile phones in prison which makes drugs easier to obtain - especially for people who have those sorts of connections on the outside.
This is a pretty interesting article:- Drug abuse in US prisons is tough to stamp out - AP News - Zimbio
And this one (bit more grim) NEJM -- Sex, Drugs, Prisons, and HIV
This is one from the State of Ohio which was given to the UN Substance Abuse in America's Prisons:* A Case for Detection, Interdiction and Intervention
Anyway, I honestly don't know what I'd do in this situation. $7000 is a fucking shitload of money though and I would probably never want to speak to my brother ever again. You just don't know which way he'd go if put in prison. He could see it as a kick up the arse and a chance to get himself clean and clear or he could think 'fuck it' and end up losing any semblance of 'giving a shit' he ever had. Prison is a very dark place and may just make him harder and tougher to crack. He may also become influenced by the scores of other criminals in there. Saying that, he might sort his life out. But you just can't know.
The broad masses of a nation are always more easily corrupted in the deeper strata of their emotional nature than consciously or voluntarily; and thus in the primitive simplicity of their minds they more readily fall victims to the big lie than the small lie, since they themselves often tell small lies in little matters but would be ashamed to resort to large-scale falsehoods. It would never come into their heads to fabricate colossal untruths, and they would not believe that others could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously. Even though the facts which prove this to be so may be brought clearly to their minds, they will still doubt and waver and will continue to think that there may be some other explanation. For the grossly impudent lie always leaves traces behind it, even after it has been nailed down, a fact which is known to all expert liars in this world and to all who conspire together in the art of lying. These people know only too well how to use falsehood for the basest purposes... Adolf Hitler
I wonder where inmates get the money for all that. It seems like it would be hard to fund an addiction to heroin, and most addicted criminals probably don't have any money.
You earn money while you're in jail, for the job that you do.
Also, there is a difference here. There's prisons, where people are sent for long term convictions, and there's jails. Prisons are where I think a lot more of the drug abuse and smuggling goes on. You can't really set that up in a jail because people aren't in jails for very long.
I have no idea whether he would actually end up in a jail or a prison. If he got charged with identity theft, probably prison. Although he might be able to get a lighter sentence based on your recommendation? Where'd all of our lawyers go?
"Computer games don't affect kids; I mean if Pac-Man affected us as kids, we'd all be running around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening to repetitive electronic music." -- Kristian Wilson, Nintendo, Inc, 1989
Yeah, just watch 'Blow'.
"Shit happens. Character is how you react to it."
id report him hes not close to you hes doesnt care about you. if he did he would have asked to borrow money not just steal your identity
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My sister stole $15,000 from a family priest. He did not report her because he's too nice. She was addicted to meth, and all sorts of stuff and didn't sort out her life until she spent 5 years in prison.
It's not your job to take care of their drug problem if you're not even close. And you can't worry about whether or not they are going to do more drugs in prison or not, which honestly, with the conviction my sister got (nearly killing a baby and various other drug charges), I really doubt your brother would be in prison long enough to even figure that shit out. They need a kick in the ass, if it doesn't work then you can't hold that guilt over your head because that's where they're headed anyway.
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Originally Posted by Ghetto Onion
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to this day i regret not calling the cops on my ex for pawning my guitar and stealing my money. my feelings for him made no difference in the matter. i took him to rehab and methadone clinics for the better part of a year.
and i'm not some jaded ex gf either- i still care about him and touch base with him frequently. but i should have done him and myself a favor and let him suffer the consequences of his actions.
he's been in and out of prisons and jails, too. for the last 15odd years. and he still struggles with heroin addiction to this day.
it's really sad for addicts, but it's often sadder when it comes to friends and family. you want to help and you want them to get clean... but in the end, there's nothing you can do for them.
i think the word that nobody's mention is enabling
third parties take responsibility, blame, or make accommodations for a person's harmful conduct (often with the best of intentions, or from fear or insecurity which inhibits action). The practical effect is that the person themselves does not have to do so, and is shielded from awareness of the harm it may do, and the need or pressure to change. It is a major environmental cause of addiction
'Cause I'm that fool that broke the key- I'm unlockable so don't check me- I got weight on my shoulders and things on my mind- The sky is falling and I'm falling behind... No shame in my game just par for the path- I try to hone my craft because at hand's the task- But I find I'm not playing with a full deck- I'm up to my neck like Toulouse Lautrec
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