Thread: Pornography

yeah but to argue that all men degrade women simply due to porn, or that it may have an influence on all men is a bit of a sweeping statement.

Of course porn doesn't give the most wonderful insight into soeciety today, but neither does feminism, terrorism, gang war, politics, the media, advertising or racism. It's all hatred or supressed primal instincts that we so wish to distance ourselves from as a "higher race" or as "civilised". In many cases our "civilisation" simply allows more eleaborate versions of these instincts to be put into place, but thats a whole different story.

There will always be those who will commit rape, be chauvinists etc. and yes there are some who have fantasies about these things society views as wrong, but the people you should really be targetting are those who cannot accept it as anything more than a fantasy.

You can't bundle a guy who watches porn to get off and respects women in the same category as a guy who watches degrading pornography and then goes out and rapes a woman or treats her like shit on principle, there are differing degrees it isn't clear cut. nothing ever is when it comes to us humans.

Love it or loathe it porn is fantasy and just a job, and it's when people don't distinguish that, in or outside of the business, when it all goes tits up and somebody becomes seriously fucked up. People who are influenced so easily will be influenced that easily by anything, its just a lottery of what they decide to pin their colours to; rape, terrorism, gang killings, random acts of violence, crimes of passion from obsessive stalking, obsessive stalking itself, acting out military fantasies or simply weapon obsession.

Ok porn isn't exactly the least twisted industry in the world, but it has some of the most safeguarded performers of any industry. It is efficiently run and all involved are consenting adults and they call the shots, not the directors. I honestly don't think you can blame the industry itself for the way certain people act and react. I can see why you are concerned and can empathise with that concern. However personally I am more concerned about the type of people who are so easily lead or allow themselves to be influenced by these sorts of things because i can't understand how they allow themselves to do so, but at the same time everyone reacts differently to the same stimuli.

i know the first things i learned of sex was not from porn because it was not easy to get ahold of back then, but i wonder now that porn is all over the internet for every 11year old boy to see if these subconcious messages might effect them more. i think time will tell on that, should bring this up again in like 6-10 years^^

at least it keeps most kids from wondering if they can get a girl pregnant from a handjob...

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You hit the hammer on the nail.

GREAT JOB

I am sorry to say that this is not the case, sex sells we all know that and with the introductions of so many varities like sex can now be seen on mobiles too this is not easy to keep a check. Every now and then people come up with new ideas to promote sex and there are no shortage of viewers either, so gone are the days when someone could teach us about the pros and cons of these, rather we should look forward to put a check on the growing number of places where sex sells.

I think the OP made really good points about pornography.

... it is not reality, and as long as people understand that, there is no problem. [/b]

It's not reality but men do hold porno sex and pornstars on a certain pedestal of sexuality. Women see men being turned on so much by these women in these movies that they are logically going to assume that this is really what their man wants and are going to try to become closer to it because they nautrally want their man to desire them the same way they seem him desiring some nameless faceless girl.

There has always been tension and anger between the sexes. Power imbalances. This new wave of violent porn is just one last manifestation of the anger men have towards women. What method are women using to return their anger at men?[/b]

Ecellent point. I do think porn show cases alot of men's anger towards women. And I would also wonder what women's retaliation to that is. It's a good question. Maybe women's retaliation is the men are pig jokes and the other put downs women use.

Porn affects the way women view themselves and affects what they think of as sexy. That's kind of a disturbing thought.[/b]

Yes. Porn does effect women and how they view themselves and how they think men view women. Why wouldn't it? Men continually seek out porn. Women are going to logically use it as a factor in seeing what turns on a man. And many women don't meet up to men's porn standards of what is beautiful. The sad thing is women so desperately have a natural need to feel beautiful to a man just the way a man feels naturally more dominate. But women can never have that because we are never beautiful enough. There is alwyas another porno girl out there. YOunger, bigger boobs and longer hair extentions.

I actaully like more dominate men. The problem is, that men want to be the leaders. But right now what women would give over that type of control to a generation of men that like seeing women be told what worthless whores they are and taking a guys sperm on her face. No woman is going to trust a man enough to give him the type of role he really desires with a real life partner when they already abuse women through pornography.

this will not be pretty

I'm pretty sure Peaches is obsessed with pornography. She will go back four years of posts to find a topic on pornography.

Please keep your fucking arguments to one topic please. You are like a fucking STD.

I'm pretty sure Peaches is obsessed with pornography. She will go back four years of posts to find a topic on pornography.

Please keep your fucking arguments to one topic please. You are like a fucking STD.[/b]

A) It's not like I exactly had to go back pages to find this topic. It was on page one.

B) Umm hello, the topic in this thread is about porn. How am I not keeping it on topic.

Man. The people here must be 12 years old.

How could it be on page one? Yours was the first post in nearly a year.
I think it was an appropriate topic for you to post in, I don't have a problem with that, but i don't think it could have been on page one unless you were especially looking for it

I'm pretty sure Peaches is obsessed with pornography. She will go back four years of posts to find a topic on pornography.

Please keep your fucking arguments to one topic please. You are like a fucking STD.[/b]

A) It's not like I exactly had to go back pages to find this topic. It was on page one.

B) Umm hello, the topic in this thread is about porn. How am I not keeping it on topic.

Man. The people here must be 12 years old.
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Well Peaches, you suprised me by not properly reading what someone else has said... <_<

I think Ghetto meant keep your views and opinions on pornography in one topic aka one thread. This will prevent your porno hatred spreading across the entire forum.

Your insults really hurt as well... i mean 12? wow..low blow...