Thread: I Hate Family, and Love/Hate Peers Who Can Party!

Come on Code, its not like they have animal sacrifices or dance around a fire chanting satanic things. [/b]

Clearly, you do not attend the right parties.

But I pay school in full this way, and I can't afford a car. Plus I live in a neighborhood where I'm the only white guy, but College is the first time I saw other white girls for the most part. I'm not racist but still!

Someday when I&#39;m on my own I&#39;ll get back lost time - I want to start a new religious movement! Seriousely! I know I&#39;m making a joke about it now but I have a serious envy / dislike for people who are able to do what I want! I was able to make it 5 minutes to a dinky Engineering Halloween bash one day and right away I was meeting people like crazy. But then I had to go home. ><

In the real world it&#39;s all 50 year olds anyway, so College is the perfect place to look for lonely people to appeal to.

I saw a councelor at school and he said there&#39;s nothing wrong with wanting to get out to a College-type of party. But my dad always tells me how the economy is failing and whispers quotes like &#39;War on the middle class&#39; in my ear. Because I took longer than 4 years they said I failed College, but my GPA says otherwise.

They want me to go part time for the next few years and get a car instead, than join the navy. I need to open my mind. My idea was to instead find a way to move out to an apartment near the Brook but I don&#39;t make enough money to pay even 500 / month. ><

And my idea of a good time is making young people to yardwork! It&#39;s more genuine. I always had a sense of satisfaction when people both look UP to me and would slave away for me.

I work 30 hours a week at Target btw, I kearned alot of skills there with dealing with people. I need to master Dale Carnegie if I hope to make real connections with others, I meet people only to loose track of my friends. ><

But I need a larger quantity so I have more menas of transport. I do have this one person who lives near College and I can crash with him.

I work 30 + hours at Target a week btw, and give 240 a month to borrow the car twice a week for school only. As is is my family thinks I&#39;m selfish and trying to &#39;pull&#39; something for wanting to stay at school longer to socialize, and I&#39;m there for the wrong reasons. And they think art is about drawing too, but I take alot of history and the like. Even where I work at Target tho, u need any College bacherlors to be able to move up the chain.

I&#39;m used to dysfunctionality in families, plus where I work I see alot of grumpy people with children. So I&#39;m used to people being suprised at how friendly a cashier I am, but it makes me think why do people get together and want to start families anyway. I a few years we&#39;ll be like them, no freedom to do as u please. Of course, I want to start a new type of surrogate family, if u catch my drift.

Anybody here use MySpace btw?

I think you can prolly lease a brand spankin new *neon* or some cheap car like that for what you&#39;re payin your parents. that&#39;s insane- $240, to borrow it 2x a week for school only?? yes, I&#39;m pretty sure you could be investing that in something more practical. time to look into public transport and start a savings acct. you can ride a bus for like $3 round trip a day. look online for something.
AND 30hrs/wk is prolly enough for you to afford getting your own place- maybe find a roomie. time to step up to the p&#39;s and get out of the house.
surrogate family? undercover anthropologists? dude. duuuude. oi. break the chains, break the mold, break a bone.

So i have this problem with believing that you could make tons of friends and that your awesome at socialization because...you&#39;re really weird..

Cod were you home schooled?

Well, it&#39;s actually 240 for everything - cost of living. In the real world it&#39;s 600 dollars a month for food alone! So they say....

Public transportation... it would be perfect if I lived out at Stony Brook. But there&#39;s only one bus that goes from Brentwood to Stony, and the latest run is at 6:30 PM. But if my job was out near College, they have busses that run much later plus a party would be in walking distance - and there&#39;s internships right on campus that I could do.

I dunno, at home it&#39;s like, &#39;you gotta graduate first b4 u can have fun&#39; and I&#39;m just lucky that I love my major. How was it with you guys though? Did u go through things loanless an debtless like me?

Red, dude, I&#39;m sure we&#39;ve been through all of this before. I really thought you might have been able to break free when you went to college, but obviously not. Dude, you just need to move out and get away from your controlling parents man. They don&#39;t still send you to bed do they???

lol yes... but I don&#39;t listen. My dad goes my this &#39;economy is failing&#39; article in Newsday, which si a fair overestimate but I use it in my OWN thinking to be more optimistic. It&#39;s an OVERESTIMATE. And 700 is a good estimate for after taxes, during summer I make more. Plus I&#39;m getting max taxes taken out so hopefully I&#39;ll get a tax refund again- which of course my dad handles last year but there&#39;s gotta be a place near College this year. But then the remaineder of the money I make mostly gets spent on gifts and things, besdies paying for school in full... and they say how selfish *I* am for not wanting to be arounbd the family as often as I should, and hanging out with another friend at school.

Sometimes I wonder why it&#39;s okay for my dad to get a temper in regards to that but if I say anything that&#39;s in disagreement he claims I&#39;m &#39;not at ease with myself.&#39; If that were true I&#39;d feel some sort of knot in my stomach right? but whenever I do &#39;outside research&#39; everyone agrees with me that I CAN be on my own though my family says I can&#39;t. It&#39;s a family cult, I tell ya, and they too are unaware of the options out there themselves. Because of my situation they feel some sort of imprisonment as well, no doubt, and they seem to stress alot more easily than me.

And thats why when I&#39;m in front of strangers I feel super-conifdent and in charge - today my sister (who also goes to school with me) wasn&#39;t around so I was able to get off the bus when I darn well choose, and I savored the freedom that I could jog my way to school without anyone threatening to kick me out of the house. Of course, may strangers don&#39;t know about my lifestyle since I can GET to school, but professors knew upon closer inspection that something was &#39;off,&#39; like I was too happy or something. I&#39;m 22 btw not 18, and I&#39;m pretty excited about life in general since I know things will only get more interesting. There&#39;s parties (and not lame cat-in-the-hat parties, Target), dating, etc. There&#39;s many ways to do things, not the "It&#39;s not my way but THE way" lecture dad tries to give me.

My dad is especially controlling since he hed to do so since my mom is a complete pushover, she screwed up the credit. She takes things the wrong way when dad makes a comment and they get into big &#39;lecture yelling fights&#39; and I&#39;m selfish for not caring to attend. I dormed at the Brook once when in grade school for 4 weeks in a summer program, and I didn&#39;t miss family then....

Money is always there issue... they have to spend $4000 dollars on a new boiler....

There are places near the Brook I wanted to live at - theres are rooms within a house tho, but it&#39;s not the illegal way since they&#39;re advertised through the Brook! Plus out at the Brook I wouldn&#39;t even NEED a car since they&#39;re bus system is that much more efficient - plus there&#39;s alot of girls there too and I could jsut walk to that party or internship without worrying about slighting everyone else. Again, the bus from my hometown to College lasts only as late as 6:30. I need an opportunity to get out there to eithor transfer my existing job to the area (easily done for next semester )or whatever - if I simply dormed and took out a loan it would be perfect, and I&#39;d have more freedom to look for an apartment and a slightly higher-paying job.

It sucks now because even to get to the Bretnwood bus to go to school I have to be driven from home - but there&#39;s ANOTHER bus that DOES stop in front of the house that goes to there, but NO I still need permission and to go with my sister. Even she&#39;s complained about family too, and she doesn&#39;t get out much either. Am I jsut supposed to forget about those little &#39;talks&#39; my father gave me? I risk disrespecting him by ignoring what he has to say, but I&#39;m sorry I did my research and some people were actually driven to join cults because of stuff like this.

There&#39;s also the matter of having my own computer which I do at home, but they&#39;re relatively cheap enough anyway. Seriosuely, it is my biggest desire to never see my family again - or at least for awhile - but the experience has turned me into wanting control as well.

Seriosuely, because of this I savor when I&#39;ll be on my own - I&#39;m even writing a story about an alternate self whose dream is to be a cult leader, befriending people at lonely points in their life, to show &#39;other&#39; options for getting through College just so they can live with him and do chores for him. He thrives on attention from people outside of the family too, btw. But at least he doesn&#39;t have a temper.