Thread: I want to get to know this boy who is a junior...

Well, he's got a girlfriend. Granted relationships in highschool tend to be a bit fluid and non-permanent, but you don't want to be the one that breaks them up. Why? Because if he's so easily broken up with one girl then he'll be easily broken up by another girl.

Secondly, put yourself in her shoes - yeah I know, not a fun thing to think about. But would you want some gal trying to cozy up to your guy?

Lastly, if you go the "let's be friends" route trying to get close to him that means you will be subjected to him and his girlfriend together which will eat you up inside and very possibly turn you into a resentful basketcase.

So, my advice? Forget him. You had fun at the dance. Take it for that. Find someone else that isn't taken.

Ruby they're like 12 or something. I really don't think that keeping away from him because he's got a gf is all that relevant at that age.

Katepie, just smile, say hello, and see what he does.

I agree with Ruby.
If he would just break up with his gf for you, what's to stop him from dumping you for someone else the same way?

Because Katiepie might be hotter?

There's ALWAYS someone hotter.

I agree with Trionix.

Ruby's advice would work out fine in a world in which everything works at it should, there are rules that are followed, and all things are peachy and such. Delusional distorted ideas of how the world works fueled that post. Most people that are desirable are taken for obvious reasons.

Bottom line: You want it? Go get it. Forget the girlfriend, no need to put yourself in her shoes, she's an enemy as far as you're concerned.

I disagree. People bitch and moan that there is not enough integrity and respect in this world. When are people supposed to learn it? It doesn't come automatically in adulthood after you have shit all over everyone in your childhood.

If you want to get respect then you have to give it. If you want people to be respectful then it has to start early and often.

It's all fine and dandy to say 'who cares?' - that is until you are the one that cares because you were shit on.

Originally Posted by Esternogligen

There's ALWAYS someone hotter.

Lies. You can name the hottest girl you know, yeah? So until you meet someone hotter, there's isn't.

but you will meet someone hotter, right? So doesn't the statement still hold true.

I think you shouldn't bother. Don't worry about boys until you finish school.

This is ridiculous, human beings aren't robots, just because someone does something once that doesn't mean they're going to keep on doing it for the rest of their lives, especially if they're teenagers for heaven's sake. It's not like this guy will suddenly be programmed to automatically leave every girl he's ever with for someone better, and if you really think that's how humans are you've got a pretty blinkered and formulaic view of humanity.

It's like listening to old wives' tales in here sometimes: "Well, once a cheat always a cheat," is the same kind of BS advice that gets given. One action does not condemn a person to always repeat that same action.

Plus when you're a teenager, does it really matter?!

I dunno. A lot of kids take high school social dynamics very seriously, so if you get a rep for something it can stick. Until you go to university and no one cares anymore.

Originally Posted by Trionix

Plus when you're a teenager, does it really matter?!

well, quite a lot to the teenagers involved.

i think it's a big fallacy (hur hur) to say if you try to get with this guy and succeed, he is not right for you. because he might be perfect and you'll have romance and awesome sex and adventures.

but equally if he's not right for you, and you start shitting on people to get what you want (not to say your options are only those two things, but if you were to go to the other extreme...), then please don't ever be upset or feel hard done by if you get the same thing back. or a horrible reputation.

find the middle ground. this is almost without exception the best advice you can ever have in any situation.

Originally Posted by rubytuesday

I disagree. People bitch and moan that there is not enough integrity and respect in this world. When are people supposed to learn it? It doesn't come automatically in adulthood after you have shit all over everyone in your childhood.

If you want to get respect then you have to give it. If you want people to be respectful then it has to start early and often.

It's all fine and dandy to say 'who cares?' - that is until you are the one that cares because you were shit on.

Once again, delusional ideas of how we're all "gonna make a change and start living right". Bunch of neo-hippie optimism that couldn't be further from the truth.

There isn't enough integrity and respect in the world. You're right. But as far as when are people gonna learn it? Never. The sooner you come to realization that humans are nothing more than selfish, hypocritical, vain beings, the better off you'll be. You want proof? Look at history as far as we know it. Look at other animals and how everything is survival of the fittest. Look at fucking Africa. Look at the sorry pile of shit that America and the western civilization is. Divorce rates, affairs. The world has always been the same, and it'll stay that way until we all nuke each other to shit. If you want people to be respectful to you, assert yourself as someone not to be fucked with because there are consequences, not with this "let's all love and respect each other, and they'll love and respect me" bunch of crap.

As for your last paragraph, we all get shit on from time to time, and when I get shit on nobody cares. Just like if it happened to anyone else. It's their fucking problem, I have plenty. And I don't care because I'm aware of how the world is. And I know that instead of giving up and quitting, I'm the only one that can make me get up and keep going to get what I want. And they're not just gonna hand it to me with "respect and integrity"

Bottom line: Everything is "me, me, me" in this world. Stop trying to change it with shitty advice and distorted ideas straight from a fucking Disney book.