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sourceA battle has erupted over who governs the internet, with America demanding to maintain a key role in the network it helped create and other countries demanding more control.
The European commission is warning that if a deal cannot be reached at a meeting in Tunisia next month the internet will split apart.
Possibly the greatest advance ever in:
politics
philosophy
spirituality
communication
...well, knowledge building i guess
boredom beating
etc.
etc.
and some powerhungry fools have to go and mess around with it.
dammit
Europeans creating a fuss over nothing. Don't try to fix was is not broken.
Power hungry americans grabbing anything they can get their hands on
Last time I checked:Originally posted by Atom's Package@Oct 17 2005, 11:12 AM
Power hungry americans grabbing anything they can get their hands on
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1) the United States developed the system
2) "Since Icann was created, the US commerce department has not once interfered with its decisions." A good record of letting information flow freely, if you ask me.
I think both sides have some good points.
I can understand some countries concerns about the potential influence of the US goverment over administration of the internet, especially with the US's current and past actions regarding other countries as well as its foreign policy.
On the other hand... the problems for the free distribution of information that would arise from other countries wanting to apply their policies and beliefs (such as China and other more totalitarian style countries) would severly retard the development and use of the internet.
I personally believe there needs to be some form of international body that would govern certain aspects of the internet that is totally independant in association with any specific or collaborative collection of countries. If only to establish some sort of policing and regulation of certain things such as Spam, Child Pornography and other highly illegal activies.
The major hurdle I see with that is in the current state of world politics it is extremely difficult and almost impossible to have such an organization be completely independant and unbiased towards politics.
Even though the internet began as a US military project for communication and other task it has evolved far past it original form. Like all great leaps of technology, once it is out... it is out.
It is all an illusion...
I was never here...
Well, you can't really say that since Tim Berners-Lee developed HTTP protocalls, and hence, the World Wide Web. Without him (British), the 'internet' would still be a localised network at some research institute, and not the massive, global information source we know it as today.1) the United States developed the system
The broad masses of a nation are always more easily corrupted in the deeper strata of their emotional nature than consciously or voluntarily; and thus in the primitive simplicity of their minds they more readily fall victims to the big lie than the small lie, since they themselves often tell small lies in little matters but would be ashamed to resort to large-scale falsehoods. It would never come into their heads to fabricate colossal untruths, and they would not believe that others could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously. Even though the facts which prove this to be so may be brought clearly to their minds, they will still doubt and waver and will continue to think that there may be some other explanation. For the grossly impudent lie always leaves traces behind it, even after it has been nailed down, a fact which is known to all expert liars in this world and to all who conspire together in the art of lying. These people know only too well how to use falsehood for the basest purposes... Adolf Hitler
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Oooooh dear.
sorta off topic, but I was listening to WGN this morning and they had someone on talking about the internet (between Sox glory stories) and he mentioned how the gov't had less knowledge than a 9 year old, regarding the internet, during 9/11.
I found that verrrrryyyy interesting. I wish I was awake enough to remember more, but oh well.
yall prolly heard that before anyways.
'Cause I'm that fool that broke the key- I'm unlockable so don't check me- I got weight on my shoulders and things on my mind- The sky is falling and I'm falling behind... No shame in my game just par for the path- I try to hone my craft because at hand's the task- But I find I'm not playing with a full deck- I'm up to my neck like Toulouse Lautrec
How do you split the internet?
I'd was going to create a very strongly constructed argument against your position; but then I got high.
Bubbabuddy: DO NOT go to a party... don't go to a party...avoid parties
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what they mean Carolyn is that the internet would split in the way it is ruin and functions.
All the current names rules and stuff that goes on would no longer necessarily apply to all sites on the internet.
its complicated and hard to explain unless you know all the stuff that goes on behind what the common internet user sees.
but it might end up that someone from North america would otbe able to access websites in say europe and other parts of the world and vice versa
It is all an illusion...
I was never here...
So S-Bers might not all be able to see each other or use msn or yahoo or aim or hotmail or anything? This is horrible!
I'd was going to create a very strongly constructed argument against your position; but then I got high.
Bubbabuddy: DO NOT go to a party... don't go to a party...avoid parties
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Carolyn,
none of this is concrete... its all hypothetical at this point. But if the worse does come to pass you might see difficulties in sending things like emails to people in other parts of the world as well as problems viewing certain sites etc etc etc
It is all an illusion...
I was never here...
Yes, but without ARPANET and other early "internets", he would have been writing code for nothing. That's almost like saying Henry Ford invented the car because he made it available to the masses.Originally posted by Caersan+Oct 17 2005, 12:10 PM-->Other then such fears are baseless in the face of ZERO inference in ICANN's sever years of existance.I can understand some countries concerns about the potential influence of the US goverment over administration of the internet, especially with the US's current and past actions regarding other countries as well as its foreign policy.
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Its not just China and dictatorships. Many European nations also censor content.On the other hand...* the problems for the free distribution of information that would arise from other countries wanting to apply their policies and beliefs (such as China and other more totalitarian style countries) would severly retard the development and use of the internet.
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Well, you can't really say that since Tim Berners-Lee developed HTTP protocalls, and hence, the World Wide Web. Without him (British), the 'internet' would still be a localised network at some research institute, and not the massive, global information source we know it as today.1) the United States developed the system
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Um, didnt some guys in Switzerland invent the internet?
Tim Berners-Lee was working at CERN in Switzerland when he invented the web.Originally posted by Gosu@Oct 17 2005, 11:58 PM
Um, didnt some guys in Switzerland invent the internet?
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Tim Berners-Lee, the guy Brew mentions in his post, developed HTTP and HTML for CERN in the early 1990s.Originally posted by Gosu@Oct 17 2005, 06:58 PM
Um, didnt some guys in Switzerland invent the internet?
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