Thread: 1% of US Adults Now In Jail

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The U.S. also is among the world leaders in capital punishment. According to Amnesty International, its 53 executions in 2006 were exceeded only by China, Iran, Pakistan, Iraq and Sudan.[/b]

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20080228/D8V3KF5O0.html

Also 1 in 3 black men will be incarcerated at some point in their lives.

The police and the justice system in the US is just not a sevent of the people. It is an organism on to itself.

That&#39;s fucking ridiculous. One in one hundred. Holy crap. A lot of it is because of those three strikes laws. Also the bullshit drug &#39;crimes&#39;.

What a horrendous waste of money. Hell we could spend that money on day care and education for youth and change those numbers around within a single generation.

Cripes.

Best place for &#39;em.

Fucking Americans.

one of my best friends is currently serving 3yrs in prison for a bulllllllllshit "crime"... the states attourney told him to not even bother with hiring an attourney because there was no way he&#39;d be convicted. -charged with aggravated assault on an officer.

the judge happened to be the officer&#39;s uncle. conflict of intrests, much?

and my friend believed them, figured since he didn&#39;t DO anything, they&#39;d end up dismissing the case. HAH! what a laugh.

so now he rots in jail, partially for his own naiivety.. for a bogus charge. the kid RAN from the cops because he had reefer on him. never EVER hit the guy. they pressed charges on an easy target, since he had a juvi record.

it&#39;s all business. i&#39;m going to see him in a couple weeks, that should be interesting. never visited a prison before. i expect to bawl my eyes out.

fuck that bullshit. it&#39;s all a fucking business. and this kid is going to be royally headfucked when he gets out. my friend is way too sensitive for that shit. i&#39;m seriously scared for him.


edit- if any of you remember mikuriel... it&#39;s his &#39;roommate&#39;. and if you remember mik, you remember how hung up he gets on govt conspiracies. that kid is ROLLING in misery these days. what a suckfest.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (sprankified @ Feb 29 2008, 07:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

edit- if any of you remember mikuriel... it&#39;s his &#39;roommate&#39;. and if you remember mik, you remember how hung up he gets on govt conspiracies. that kid is ROLLING in misery these days. what a suckfest.[/b]

That&#39;s such a shame. I had a lot of time for Mikuriel.

to clarify..? it&#39;s not him, it&#39;s his bff. but YEAH it sucks.


...and i can&#39;t tell if you&#39;re being sarcastic.

and if you are, then fuck you.

yup i agree its some fucked up shit the prison industry is a good business to get in sad but true

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (sprankified @ Feb 29 2008, 07:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

to clarify..? it&#39;s not him, it&#39;s his bff. but YEAH it sucks.


...and i can&#39;t tell if you&#39;re being sarcastic.

and if you are, then fuck you. [/b]

Fuck you back!

I thought you meant that Mik was in a world of misery right now, hence my concern. I got on well with him, if I remember rightly.

Stop breaking the fucking law and you wont go to jail.

Its not the government&#39;s fault, its not the cop&#39;s fault, its not the judge&#39;s fault.

ITS YOUR FAULT.

DONT DO DRUGS, DONT HIT WOMEN, DONT STEAL THINGS...

Fucking a, it is NOT hard to stay out of prison.

I think it stems from three sources, one it that the criminal justice system is utterly flawed, particularly along racial lines
2. we continue to perputate policy that put black boys in situations of poverty, we&#39;ve conciouslly made the decision not to educate them as well as we do white suburban kids, and we expect them to be as successful as their peers.
3. This is the fucking USA, violence is our solution to everything, and if your a real american you use a gun to do it.

Catter, you have to admit with numbers like that it&#39;s a systemic issue. One in one hundred doesn&#39;t just point to the person but instead to the system.

I myself would be much happier seeing my tax money going to something constructive - like rehabilitation, prevention etc.

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (sprankified @ Feb 29 2008, 07:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

to clarify..? it&#39;s not him, it&#39;s his bff. but YEAH it sucks.


...and i can&#39;t tell if you&#39;re being sarcastic.

and if you are, then fuck you. [/b]

Fuck you back!

I thought you meant that Mik was in a world of misery right now, hence my concern. I got on well with him, if I remember rightly.
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yes, that&#39;s what i meant. he&#39;s a wonderful person, as is our friend. i spoke with him the other night and we both wound up in tears, 400 miles apart. it&#39;s not easy, and it&#39;s certainly not right.
but fuck you three times sideways ANYWAYZ!1!

catter, i certainly don&#39;t expect you to sympathize with the reality of this situation, not to mention countless others: it&#39;s profitable to put people into prison. my friend now """costs""" close to 30g a year. he&#39;s of greater value behind bars than he is working a crap min wage job buffetted with food stamps.
"it&#39;s simple economics, son- i don&#39;t understand it at all."

this isn&#39;t a race matter, either. i suppose it boils down to class in this case.


AND as ruby reminded me, there&#39;s something like 1% of the prisons in the us with higher education and rehab programs. the reality is that we just lock people up long enough to.... (you tell me)... then release them back into public life, without the skills necesarry to get a job and work with society. thus, they turn around and sell drugs/ their body/ whatever got them there in the first place... and they wind up back behind bars. that 3 strike rule? i saw an interview of an inmate who&#39;d just finished serving time on her 2nd, and figured on prostituting and returning since she had no means of supporting herself realistically and has been in prison most of her life. so why not just live there? sad.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TheMadCatter @ Feb 29 2008, 02:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

Stop breaking the fucking law and you wont go to jail.

Its not the government&#39;s fault, its not the cop&#39;s fault, its not the judge&#39;s fault.

ITS YOUR FAULT.

DONT DO DRUGS, DONT HIT WOMEN, DONT STEAL THINGS...

Fucking a, it is NOT hard to stay out of prison.[/b]

You forgot don&#39;t be black and near a place where a crime was commited.

Or maybe it&#39;s just that 1/3rd of all black men really do hit women steal and do drugs

The problem with the US justice system is not only that it is ridiculously harsh, that probation is retarded the way it is set up now (a criminal is not dangerous enough to be locked up but if he fails a drug test for pot he is?), but that it is enforced all lopsidedly. Things a subruban kids will get a slap on the wrist for someone from the inner city will go to jail for 2 years for. This is true even of violent crime. My brother got jumped by 5 kids from a nieghboring rich suburb and they got a little unmonitered probation. This emo kid from my highschool got jumped by a bunch of black kids and they all went to prison. Even one who only threatened the kid and never laid a hand on him.

You can also see it in how they&#39;ll try a 17 yearold rich kids as a child but try to give a poor minority the death penalty at 14.