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    Originally posted by Carolyn+Nov 9 2004, 09:51 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Carolyn @ Nov 9 2004, 09:51 PM)</div>
    Originally posted by _=-GoNe-=_@Nov 9 2004, 07:09 PM
    Originally posted by Carolyn@Nov 9 2004, 09:08 AM
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    alot of you are over looking one detail. they thought it was right. tehy saw no bad what so ever in doing this, at all.
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    what do you think god will do to those kamakazie suacide bombers?
    that was my original question, not if they would be persicuted by man.
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    I was using the law of the land to show the same principle. Ignorance of God&#39;s law does not take away the penalties if you break it.
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    So, you are saying, for example, If I had absolutely no idea that it was illegal to ride a push bike on the path, and so, i rode my bike on the path, I should be punished for it.
    No, I would just be told, so that next time I know better.

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    Everyone knows right from wrong. These people let themselves be brainwashed. At one point they knew that sending a plane into a building full of people was not the right thing to do. I had a verse on here earlier that said that God&#39;s law was written on everyone&#39;s heart (Romans) but I&#39;m too lazy to look it up right now.
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    Originally posted by Carolyn@Nov 10 2004, 08:24 AM
    Everyone knows right from wrong.
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    I don&#39;t agree, but I guess thats just a matter of personal opinion so this discussion could go on forever.

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    Originally posted by Carolyn@Nov 10 2004, 08:24 AM
    Everyone knows right from wrong. These people let themselves be brainwashed. At one point they knew that sending a plane into a building full of people was not the right thing to do. I had a verse on here earlier that said that God&#39;s law was written on everyone&#39;s heart (Romans) but I&#39;m too lazy to look it up right now.
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    most of these people are forced into these things and if they dont do them they will be tortured, killed, and have the same done to their family. so, they never really wanted to do it but they had to. after this they brainwash them into thinking "god will praise you for this".
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    if youre gonna talk about kamikazi pilots keep in mind theyre gonna die anyways so they rather use it to their advantage like crash them self into their enemy instead of straight into teh ground so i think you migth wanna talk about suicide bombers they ar ethe one who believ if they die with takign alot of the enemy away withthem they are doing their god a favor..
    When it comes to pink butterflies i could give a flying fuck.

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    Originally posted by Carolyn@Nov 10 2004, 07:24 AM
    Everyone knows right from wrong. These people let themselves be brainwashed. At one point they knew that sending a plane into a building full of people was not the right thing to do. I had a verse on here earlier that said that God&#39;s law was written on everyone&#39;s heart (Romans) but I&#39;m too lazy to look it up right now.
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    Who is to say there is a right and a wrong? Right and Wrong are subjective.

    Since you brainwash people when they are young, how are they suppose to not be brainwashed?

    God&#39;s law may be written on everyone&#39;s heart but some people can&#39;t read.
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    Ya&#39;ll are missing the point. Christianity says that everyone who&#39;s sinned is going to hell unless they&#39;ve accepted God&#39;s forgiveness via Jesus Christ. These suicide bombers are no different than anybody else.
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    now your missing the point, is this a sin?
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    yeah it is, but what&#39;s the difference between a kamikaze and a pilot who drops a bomb knowing it&#39;s going to kill people?

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    some one dropping a bomb is fighting for their life and for the lives of their family. a kamakazie is fighting for their country and for God *as they "know" at the time*
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    Are you talking about kamikaze pilots or suicide bombers, because suicide bombers is for God n stuff but kamikaze&#39;s are for honour and country. and how if your sitting in a plane dropping a bomb is it fighting for your life, you know your going to kill people. and did&#39;nt Bush say he knew God was on americas side about iraq, is&#39;nt that a sin.

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    Originally posted by _=-GoNe-=_@Nov 14 2004, 01:19 PM
    some one dropping a bomb is fighting for their life and for the lives of their family.

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    That is so completely untrue.

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    kamikazee pilots will only crash into their enemy if their plane is shot down and is goign to die anyways shit if i was slipped a pill that gave me 15 minutes to live by my enemy i will try and take him down with me thats how kamikazi pilots work thats on a whole another persepctive than a middle eastern suicide bomber which just goes out there and instantly kill them elf and a bunch of others for their beliefs and god
    When it comes to pink butterflies i could give a flying fuck.

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    Originally posted by messed@Nov 14 2004, 02:00 PM
    Are you talking about kamikaze pilots or suicide bombers, because suicide bombers is for God n stuff but kamikaze&#39;s are for honour and country. and how if your sitting in a plane dropping a bomb is it fighting for your life, you know your going to kill people. and did&#39;nt Bush say he knew God was on americas side about iraq, is&#39;nt that a sin.
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    both. one is going for their country and family one is for country and god

    Originally posted by phrogget+Nov 14 2004, 02:23 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (phrogget @ Nov 14 2004, 02:23 PM)</div>
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    some one dropping a bomb is fighting for their life and for the lives of their family.

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    That is so completely untrue.
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    how is this untrue what so ever? your sayin that all the pilots in history have *enjoyed* killing thousands of people? no, they did it because they had to. fighter pilots do it in their own well being. its a dog eat dog world, if we dont kill them they will kill us first. if we dont kill we will be killed, its a fact. we all cant get together in this world, its a impossibility.
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    Originally posted by _=-GoNe-=_+Nov 14 2004, 05:00 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (_=-GoNe-=_ @ Nov 14 2004, 05:00 PM)</div>
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    Are you talking about kamikaze pilots or suicide bombers, because suicide bombers is for God n stuff but kamikaze&#39;s are for honour and country. and how if your sitting in a plane dropping a bomb is it fighting for your life, you know your going to kill people. and did&#39;nt Bush say he knew God was on americas side about iraq, is&#39;nt that a sin.
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    both. one is going for their country and family one is for country and god

    Originally posted by phrogget+Nov 14 2004, 02:23 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (phrogget @ Nov 14 2004, 02:23 PM)</div>
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    some one dropping a bomb is fighting for their life and for the lives of their family.

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    That is so completely untrue.
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    how is this untrue what so ever? your sayin that all the pilots in history have *enjoyed* killing thousands of people? no, they did it because they had to. fighter pilots do it in their own well being. its a dog eat dog world, if we dont kill them they will kill us first. if we dont kill we will be killed, its a fact. we all cant get together in this world, its a impossibility.
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    It&#39;s not for their own lives, or their familys. It&#39;s for their governments. Thats all the army is, just little drones that are there to fight the governments battles.
    Noone in Britains or americas army has been fighting to protect themselves and their family since world war 2, because we&#39;ve not been under attack.

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