Thread: Sinning

this and this alone was why i switched religions. everything makes no sense at all, the entire thing seems hypocritical to me but i dont know if it is because i never really knew every thing there was to christianity, no one does.

its a confusing religion and no one will know what it all means until our time. put trust into god, jah, alah, who ever it is that you worship and everythings gona be alright.

Originally posted by paulrooster6@Nov 14 2004, 03:06 PM
we all have to have* something to belive in
or we feel death brings nothing to look forward to in the afterlife
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ahh...the basis of christianity

doesn&#39;t the thought of eternal life scare anyone else? the thought of death is more comforting to me than the thought of an afterlife. am i the only one who feels this way? if there was no afterlife, it&#39;s not like you&#39;d miss it....cause you&#39;d be fucking dead. i think i would get very, very tired if i had to live forever.

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ahh...the basis of christianity

doesn&#39;t the thought of eternal life scare anyone else? the thought of death is more comforting to me than the thought of an afterlife. am i the only one who feels this way? if there was no afterlife, it&#39;s not like you&#39;d miss it....cause you&#39;d be fucking dead. i think i would get very, very tired if i had to live forever.
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put your trust in Jah and just believe in reincarnation. anything you believe can happen after you die. in your next life if you wanted to have yourself never think about eternal life again it would happen. it is a scary thought but we all have to live with it.

Originally posted by phrogget@Nov 14 2004, 04:47 AM
Does this basically mean, that it is okay for christians to sin, hence, morally do whatever they please as long as they repent, because they believe in jesus, but everybody else is going to hell, even if they live the same life as a christian, but just don&#39;t believe in jesus.

What about if you spend your whole life being a perfectly good person, abiding by the ten comandments, and never hurting anyone?
Would you get into heaven even if you didn&#39;t believe in chrisianity?
Just wondering what you think.
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In Romans Paul addresses this. He likens sin to slavery and he says that why would you continue to put yourself back into slavery&#39;s hands even though you&#39;ve been freed? Notice, Jesus got more upset over hypocrisy than anything else. The Bible says that the church is supposed to throw them out of the doors until they change their actions.

Well it&#39;s okay for Christianity because it&#39;s a religion based on hypocrisy.

You are most certainly not allowed to question the church because they have no answers to give you, and one person raising a concern might cause others to shake their fog of brainwashing off and think for themselves for once.

They tell you what to think and what to believe, and yet "God" leaves us to our own devices, to make our own decisions even if they are the wrong decisions. But if we make a mistake, or sin, we&#39;re bad people.

Would you condemn your child to hell because he or she did something wrong, or broke one of your house rules?

But then again, God is all forgiving... oh, unless you&#39;re gay... and then he just doesn&#39;t like you.

Who says it is okay to sin if you have accepted Jesus?

My understanding is we are going to sin no matter what, we are imperfect. No one can keep all 10 commandments, it is impossible.

Who on here thinks they do? Have you ever taken the Lords name in vain? Ever not recognized the sabbath? Ever lied? Stole something? Comitted adultry? Not honored your parents?

If you break one of those laws you are screwed plain and simple. If you follow the 10 commandments are you following the laws that govern those? The sacrifices? The spiritual cleanliness? Are you following those laws God laid out in connection with those 10 commands? My guess is no, which pretty much makes any effort to follow those commands moot.

As a christian I do not embrace my sinful nature because I have accepted Jesus.

Originally posted by Aphrodite5156@Nov 15 2004, 11:12 AM
Would you condemn your child to hell because he or she did something wrong, or broke one of your house rules?

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Technicality: you&#39;re not God&#39;s child until you become a Christian. Until then you&#39;re just a creation.

The christan walk is not an easy one as we are supposed to try and walk on this narrow road. I am sorry you have misconceptions about it but I am here to tell you that you are incorrect about it.
We have to admit that we are going to sin no matter what, but we are supposed to do our best to avoid it at the same time. It is kind of a weird dicotomy.

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You are most certainly not allowed to question the church because they have no answers to give you, and one person raising a concern might cause others to shake their fog of brainwashing off and think for themselves for once.[/b]

Actually, if you would dare listen and hear what the Church has to say you would be surprised, certainly.

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They tell you what to think and what to believe, and yet "God" leaves us to our own devices, to make our own decisions even if they are the wrong decisions. But if we make a mistake, or sin, we&#39;re bad people.[/b]

Is the Church telling us what to think and believe any more than you, who condemns the Church as hypocritical?

A parent will tell you to look both ways before crossing the street, will even tell you not to cross a busy street, and warn you of the consequences if you do not heed what they&#39;ve told you. It&#39;s still your choice, but were they wrong in telling you what to do?

God has His laws and rules that only seek to set us free. By sinning we hack at the string that holds us alive in Him.

Also, do not liken mistakes with sin, they are not one and the same. You can&#39;t be blamed for something you did unknowingly or without bad intentions. Sin is willingly breaking the religious and moral law. Calling sin a mistake is just an excuse.

God is good, and if you commit an act against Him willfully committing a sin, you are committing a bad act. What you have to do is figure out how much you can act bad before you are a bad person. Or do you believe no on is bad?

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It&#39;s not that simple. And it&#39;s not as if God sits there and points fingers. He loves everyone equally, sinner and saint. But He cannot be with sinners because He cannot be with sin. It just wouldn&#39;t work out ya know.

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So where would a "creation" go in case of death? Hell?

Are you saying that an adult who has become a Christian will go to the same place as that child? What place is that?