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    My family practices no religion (my mother actually laughs at and belittles the idea, and often labels them as cults, but that's a different story). Needless to say, I am ignorant on the topic.

    The main thing I want to know is what is the difference between the two aforementioned religions. My friend, who isn't very religious either, tried explaining it to me, but failed. Something about, one is more traditional or some shit.

    Do they study the same bible?

    Do they worship the same god?

    If so, then what's the fucking difference?

    Do they have beef with each other?

    When Jesus was alive, which religion was he supporting and spreading, and how did the other one start?

    Just a general outline of the two. Don't be afraid to give some details, I'm always up for an educational read.

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    Christianity is the name for the over-arching religion, like all Catholics are Christians. Back in the day there were two main churches, Catholic and Protestant (Church of England), Catholics being the strictly traditional, Protestants making divorce acceptable. From the Church of England then stemmed a large tide of Christian splinter groups, each with their own individual 'take' on what the bible actually meant.

    Catholics and Protestants have bitched at each other since forever, and they still do in northern Ireland.

    Do they study the same bible? Yes. They place emphasis on different parts of it though, the Catholics accept everything in the bible, Protestants usually ignore the Old Testament (the first half of the bible), as far as I'm aware.

    Do they worship the same god? Pretty much.

    If so, then what's the fucking difference? Well, the Catholics wouldn't let Henry the eighth get divorced. So he made the Church of England.

    Do they have beef with each other? Yep, they have done.

    When Jesus was alive, which religion was he supporting and spreading, and how did the other one start? Jesus was allegedly spreading the word of God. There was no bible to teach from, and Catholics might argue that he was teaching pure Catholicism as its taught today.

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    And where ignorance is lifted, complexity is viewed.

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    catholics are gaudy and boistrous. they like theatrics, inscence and statues. christians play tennis and have large rods shoved firmly up their asses.

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    Protestants have substantially smaller penises.

    Edit: They are also all probably gay, since they don't recognize the divinity of the Virgin Mary.



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    Originally posted by Trionix@Aug 20 2005, 06:07 AM
    Christianity is the name for the over-arching religion, like all Catholics are Christians.* Back in the day there were two main churches, Catholic and Protestant (Church of England), Catholics being the strictly traditional, Protestants making divorce acceptable.* From the Church of England then stemmed a large tide of Christian splinter groups, each with their own individual 'take' on what the bible actually meant.
    Ehh... sorta. The Eastern Ordordox left the fold first. Then the Lutherians. The Church of England came a bit later.


    Do they study the same bible? Yes.* They place emphasis on different parts of it though, the Catholics accept everything in the bible, Protestants usually ignore the Old Testament (the first half of the bible), as far as I'm aware.
    Protestants place alot of emphasis on the Old Testiment.

    If so, then what's the fucking difference? Well, the Catholics wouldn't let Henry the eighth get divorced. So he made the Church of England.
    Divorces where not allowed at the time. The Church would annul marriages, however. The Pope refused to annul Henry VIII's for political reasons (meaning: he didn't want an ax to the back of the head).


    When Jesus was alive, which religion was he supporting and spreading, and how did the other one start?* Jesus was allegedly spreading the word of God.* There was no bible to teach from, and Catholics might argue that he was teaching pure Catholicism as its taught today.
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    According to Catholic belief, the verse where Jesus called Peter "the rock upon which I will build the church" is the start of their faith. They consider themselves the spiritual heirs to Peter.

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    Catholics are Christians, Hayley.

    Christianity splits into Catholicism and Protestantism and the latter splits into orthodox(easter/greek), Baptists, Calvinists and all other etc things.
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    Originally posted by Testosterone OD@Aug 20 2005, 02:29 PM
    Catholics are Christians, Hayley.

    Christianity splits into Catholicism and Protestantism and the latter splits into orthodox(easter/greek), Baptists, Calvinists and all other etc things.
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    You have your timeline off.
    The Orthodox split from Catholics over the issue of icons (the Great Schism).
    The other groups split off in the early Renaissance for a variety of reasons.

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    Protestants are also missing 7 books from the OT. Luther didn&#39;t like them...
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    Originally posted by Testosterone OD@Aug 20 2005, 01:29 PM
    Catholics are Christians, Hayley.
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    hello, captain obvious!

    edit: based on my description, i assume you&#39;re christian.

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    Hail to you too!

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    Originally posted by Testosterone OD@Aug 20 2005, 03:37 PM
    Hail to you too!


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    Originally posted by Presence@Aug 20 2005, 03:48 PM
    Protestants are also missing 7 books from the OT. Luther didn&#39;t like them...
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    More like Luther didn&#39;t think they should be added to the canon. The books where not considered canonal until 1566, 20 years after the death of Luther.

    Luther&#39;s followers rejected their inclusion because the books were not part of the Tanakh. Luther, however, did consider them to have a value as a source of guidance.

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    Originally posted by ConstantlyBored@Aug 20 2005, 03:54 AM
    My family practices no religion (my mother actually laughs at and belittles the idea, and often labels them as cults, but that&#39;s a different story). Needless to say, I am ignorant on the topic.

    The main thing I want to know is what is the difference between the two aforementioned religions. My friend, who isn&#39;t very religious either, tried explaining it to me, but failed. Something about, one is more traditional or some shit.

    Do they study the same bible?

    Do they worship the same god?

    If so, then what&#39;s the fucking difference?

    Do they have beef with each other?

    When Jesus was alive, which religion was he supporting and spreading, and how did the other one start?

    Just a general outline of the two. Don&#39;t be afraid to give some details, I&#39;m always up for an educational read.
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    Don&#39;t listen to what half of these people are saying. It&#39;s great that you are interested in all of this.

    Christianity and Catholicism are very different and very similiar. Catholicism is a branch of Christianity, but it&#39;s a very scrict religion. They both study the same Bible, because they both have the same basic beliefs, and that is that our God is the only God and that Jesus came down to earth and died on the cross to save us from our own sins. Yes, they study the same God.

    The real difference is that Catholicism has a lot to do with &#39;being liturgically correct&#39; and catholics really get a bad rep because of the leadership in the church right now being so screwed up. Catholics also believe in the sacraments as being a very important part of religion. Baptism, Eucharistic ministry, Confirmation, being ordained as a person of faith, prayer over the sick, etc. The Eucharist is believed to actually be the body and blood of christ when prayed over by the priest and this is done at every mass (church service) because it is believed to be the breath and life of God being taken in.

    When Jesus was on this earth he was Jewish because Judism is waiting for the arrival of Christ (jews now don&#39;t believe that Jesus was the messiah, they believe he was a prophet). It would take too long to go into how christianity came about but really Christianity began after Jesus died on the cross for our sins and rose again.

    My advice - if you&#39;re interested in Christianity, go to a nondenominational church and talk to the pastors there. Get the basics on christian faith and explore the different branches of beliefs from there.
    Good luck, hope I helped.
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    My advice - if you&#39;re interested in Christianity, go to a nondenominational church and talk to the pastors there. Get the basics on christian faith and explore the different branches of beliefs from there.
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