Thread: Should Creationism be Taught in Schools?

Lets call a spade a spade.

It isn't "creationalism," that is advocated. You don't learn Hindu or Zoroasturian creationalism. You don't learn how ancient Greeks or Eygptians thought the earth was formed. "Creationism," a highly Christianized take on the Torah.

You want to teach it, you need to go into the actual history and language of the Torah and how the counterintuitive Christian takes on it came to be. If you teach it as an alternative to science, on the same plane as it, you are doing neither topic justice. Christian history needs to be a course or more so, a major in itself, not a side note to science.

Seriously, creationalism doesn't even make sense from the language of the Torah itself, it needs an anthropological dimension as well.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Esternogligen @ Sep 15 2008, 09:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

Welp, that pretty much illustrates Tri&#39;s motivation for this topic.[/b]

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<div class=\'quotetop\'>QUOTE (ShadowHawk @ Sep 15 2008, 01:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class=\'quotemain\'><div class=\'quotetop\'>QUOTE (Esternogligen @ Sep 15 2008, 09:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class=\'quotemain\'>Welp, that pretty much illustrates Tri&#39;s motivation for this topic.[/b][/quote]


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*bows*

For those of you who think both should be taught so kids can make a "choice" of their own, why does it have to be limited to Christianity? Why don&#39;t we just incorporate a religion class into our education system so that they can learn about all religions and THEN pick what they believe in?

And don&#39;t you think it&#39;s a little important to be careful what you&#39;re doing to kids through that? Children are impressionable (ie: everyone blindly passionate about their religion because they&#39;re raised that way), and to tell them "Well you can believe in THIS, or you can believe in THAT" is just going to lead to inner confusion or even trivialize the whole idea of religion when in their minds, they&#39;re just picking whatever they feel like believing in.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ghetto Onion @ Sep 15 2008, 05:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

For those of you who think both should be taught so kids can make a "choice" of their own, why does it have to be limited to Christianity?[/b]

Because Christianity is the right religion.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ghetto Onion @ Sep 15 2008, 08:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

And don&#39;t you think it&#39;s a little important to be careful what you&#39;re doing to kids through that? Children are impressionable (ie: everyone blindly passionate about their religion because they&#39;re raised that way), and to tell them "Well you can believe in THIS, or you can believe in THAT" is just going to lead to inner confusion or even trivialize the whole idea of religion when in their minds, they&#39;re just picking whatever they feel like believing in.[/b]

Yes! So why don&#39;t we just tell them what to believe, which is evolution, which is the truth, and everyone will be on the same page.

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<div class=\'quotetop\'>QUOTE (Aphrodite5156 @ Sep 15 2008, 06:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class=\'quotemain\'><div class=\'quotetop\'>QUOTE (Ghetto Onion @ Sep 15 2008, 08:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class=\'quotemain\'>And don&#39;t you think it&#39;s a little important to be careful what you&#39;re doing to kids through that? Children are impressionable (ie: everyone blindly passionate about their religion because they&#39;re raised that way), and to tell them "Well you can believe in THIS, or you can believe in THAT" is just going to lead to inner confusion or even trivialize the whole idea of religion when in their minds, they&#39;re just picking whatever they feel like believing in.[/b][/quote]


Yes! So why don&#39;t we just tell them what to believe, which is evolution, which is the truth, and everyone will be on the same page.[/b][/quote]
Exactly.
Or at least it will be the truth... until we discover a more accurate truth in 2579 AD when technology allows more accurate observation.
...or yet a different, more accurate truth still, in 3186 AD...

Until all you scientist folk can make up your minds, I&#39;m still gonna believe that the Earth is flat.
Gimme a buzz know when you guys know for certain.

<div class=\'quotetop\'>QUOTE (lazyhops @ Sep 15 2008, 11:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class=\'quotemain\'>in 2579 AD science won&#39;t mind updating its views, that is the whole basis of science. Accepting when things are wrong, and updating theories and models. This is why science is increasingly accurate year by year, and Christianity still follows a 2000 year old book.[/b][/quote]
Like I said, whenever you figure out what the truth really is, buzz me.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Esternogligen @ Sep 16 2008, 08:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

Like I said, whenever you figure out what the truth really is, buzz me.[/b]

So until someone figures out every single answer, you&#39;d rather believe in imaginary friends, &#39;spiritual evidence&#39; and fairytales?

Nice.

<div class=\'quotetop\'>QUOTE (Trionix @ Sep 16 2008, 02:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class=\'quotemain\'><div class=\'quotetop\'>QUOTE (Esternogligen @ Sep 16 2008, 08:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class=\'quotemain\'>Like I said, whenever you figure out what the truth really is, buzz me.[/b][/quote]
So until someone figures out every single answer, you&#39;d rather believe in imaginary friends, &#39;spiritual evidence&#39; and fairytales?

Nice.[/b][/quote]
Sorry if it bothers you.
Tell ya what, if you&#39;re still losing sleep over it in 6 months... just start another soapbox topic to make yourself feel better.

Going to go with Mill on this one; freedom of speech is essential regardless of how abhorrent you find some peoples&#39; speech. You can&#39;t know the whole argument against something without knowing the arguments for it. Etc. Etc. Etc.

I&#39;ll get off my soapbox.