Thread: Meditation

I've tried a few different ways, and I always mean to try harder again. I stopped trying when I just kept falling asleep every time I tried to meditate, but I've talked to people who say, "well that's fine, if your body needed sleep, sleep." But I want meditation to be productive mental time, or something. I think that the major part is time and intention. For me, I don't think sitting there thinking about breathing is quite what I want to do. I have figured out that if I get up 20 min early and write whatever enters my head, or to sit and draw or paint for 20 min with no pressure about outcome, my days start going better and I feel more creative, which is about all I want. If I have ideas while I'm meditating, it seems like I'll get too distracted trying to remember it, I'd rather "meditate" right there with paper in hand. I'm told I ought to try harder with it, give myself less expectation, but I feel like the formal 'sit there and physically do nothing' (movement) is a little too boring for me, evidently... :-/ I should try harder though, I guess. Anyway, the hardest part holding me back is just setting aside the time and committing every single day.''

What kind of meditation course? I hope you update... I'm still half-assedly shopping around for a meditation course.

Sitting there thinking about breathing? Noob! Haven't you ever noticed that when you breathe deeply into your abdomen your thoughts disappear? They literally disappear..if I can accomplish that in five minutes I can't wait to see what I can do to my mind with an hour.

And the whole sleep deal. You're meditating lying down I presume? There's a fix for that

i also sleep when i meditate. and i do it sitting up. My work does meditation once a week, and they purposely got uncomfortable chairs for the meditation room, to stop people falling asleep. But i can still do it.

Sometimes the silence scares me. Sometimes i have trouble focussing my thoughts so they don't run away on a list of things i have to do once i've finished meditating. But i've been practicing. I think that we fill our lives with so much noise, that we don't learn to be comfortable with the silences, and the silences are important.

What sort of meditation are you doing?

Just regular meditation from a lady who teaches beginner courses and workshops as well as yoga. So I'm thinking of doing the course so I can master it, maybe attend a class once a week (not a teaching class just a meditating class they're usually free or very cheap) and do it on my own aswell. I think it will be relatively easy as I've dabbled in prahnic healing and hypnotherapy and body work in my singing lessons and I just find it balances me and I have no reason not to!!

Yoga is a really good precurser to meditation (meditation is a type of yoga anyway) especially if you're having trouble clearing your head. (and have time)

another good one if you're struggling is to be in a dark room with a lit candle in front of you, stare at the candle long enough to get an after-image floating around, close your eyes and focus on keeping the afterimage for as long as possible. I think that's my favourite way to meditate, breathing alone i find quite frustrating. (there's loads of good ones, imagining yourself slowly filling with a colour, and when you're full filling with a different colour, picturing yourself as the very peak of a mountain and trying to feel the whole mountain {best if you can do lotus})

also, i can't believe you have a psychic, she must be very talented to know that an early twenties girl in a rock band who's having a hard time is considering drugs! :P

hahah! - Syco, ditch the psychic. They're all frauds. They're experts at telling you what you want to hear whilst getting information out of you with vague statements. Waste of money. Anyway...

I acxtually enjoy breathing exercises. I find they really work for me, especially as after a while you can almost feel each breath creeping into every corner of your body and the control you have to exert over your lungs and diafragm becomes natural. 7-seconds in, 7-seconds out. It's a technique I got from my insane book "Nothing in this Book is True but it's Exactly How Things Are" which reccomends this particular breathing cycle as a way to activate your Merkaba and achieve inter-dimensional travel (like, duh, of course!)

Haha. Sorry but she made too many correct statements about me without being lead there and finished off too many of my sentences to be fraudulent.

She also said I could expect to see a contract within the next one to two years, so I'll see if one arises then ey That's a big statement considering the music business in my country is horse shit.

Meditation lady teaches yoga too if I can afford it I'll dive in and do that too Can't hurt

Syco, you are a person prone to bouts of real self-examination. This is in sharp contrast to a striking ability you have developed to appear socially very engaged, even the life and soul of the party; but in a way that only convinces others. You are all too aware of it being a facade.

This means that you will often be at a gathering and find yourself playing a part. While on one hand you'll be talkative and funny, you'll be detaching yourself to the point where you will find yourself watching everything going on around you and feeling utterly unable to engage. You'll play conversations back to yourself in your head and wonder what that a person really meant when they said such and such - conversations that other people wouldn't give a second thought to.

How have you learned to deal with this conflict? Through exercising control. You like to show a calm, self assured, fluid kind of stability (but because this is self-consciously created, it will create bouts of frustrated silliness and a delight in extremes, or at least a delight in being seen to be extreme.) You most easily recognise this control in how you are with people around you. You have learned how to protect yourself by keeping people at bay. Because in the past you have learned to be disappointed by people (and because there were issues with you adjusting to your sexuality) you instinctively keep people at arms' length until YOU decide they are to be allowed over that magic line into your group of close friends. However, once across that line, the problem is that an emotional dependency kicks in which leaves you feeling very hurt or rejected if it appears they have betrayed that status.

Because you are prone to self examination, you will be aware of these traits. However, you are usually able to examine even that self-examination, which means in the past you have been concerned about what the REAL YOU is. You have become all too aware of facades, of the sides of yourself you present to the world, and you wonder if you have lost touch with the real and spontaneous you.

You are very creative, and have tried different avenues to utilize that ability. It may not be that you specifically, say, paint; it may be that your creativity shows itself in more subtle ways, but you will certainly find yourself having vivid and well formed ideas which others find hard to grasp. You set high standards for yourself, though, and in many ways are a bit of a perfectionist. The problem is, though, that it means you often don’t get stuff done, because you are frustrated by the idea of mediocrity and are wearied by the idea of starting something afresh. However once your brain is engaged, you'll find yourself sailing. Very likely this will lead to you having considered writing a novel or some such, but a fear that you won't be able to achieve quite what you want stops you from getting on with it. But you have a real vision for things, which others fall short of. Particularly in your academic/college situation, you are currently fighting against restraints upon your desire to express yourself freely.

Your relationship with your parents (there is a suggestion that one is no longer around, or at least emotionally very absent) is under some strain. You wish to remain fond of them but recent issues are causing frustration - from your side far more than theirs. In fact they seem unaware of your thoughts on the matter. Partly this is because there are ways in which you have been made to feel isolated from certain groups in the past - something of an outsider. Now what is happening is that you are taking that outsider role and defending it to the point of consciously avoiding being part of a group. This will serve you enormously well in your creative and career pursuits. You have an enormous cynicism towards those who prefer to be part of a group or who exhibit any cliquey behaviour, and you always feel a pang of disappointment when you see your 'close' friends seeming to follow that route. Deep down it feels like rejection.

However, for all that introspection, you have developed a sensational, dry sense of humour that makes connections quickly and wittily and will leave you making jokes that go right over the heads of others. You delight in it so much that you'll often rehearse jokes or amusing voices to yourself in order to 'spontaneously' impress others with them. But this is a healthy desire to impress, and although you hate catching yourself at it, it's nothing to be so worried about.

There's an odd feeling also that you should have been born in a different century. You might make more sense of that than I can.

There are some strong monetary shifts taking place at the moment. Both the recent past and what's in store over the next few months represent quite a change.

You're naturally a little disorganised. A look around your living space would show a box of photos, unorganised into albums, out-of-date medicines, broken items not thrown out, and notes to yourself which are significantly out of date. Something related to this is that you tend to lack motivation. Because you're resourceful and talented enough to be pretty successful when you put your mind to things, this encourages you to procrastinate and put them off. Equally, you've given up dreams a little easily when your mind flitted elsewhere. There are in your home signs of an excursion into playing a musical instrument, which you have since abandoned, or are finding yourself less interested in. (This may alternatively relate to poetry and creative writing you've briefly tried your hand at and left behind you.)

You have a real capacity for deciding that such-and-such a thing (or so-and-so a person) will be the be all and end all of everything and be with you for ever. But you'd rather try and fail, and swing from an extreme to the other, than settle for the little thing that you see others content with.

You do present something of a conundrum, which won't surprise you. You are certainly bright, but unusually open to life's possibilities - something not normally found among achieving people. I'd say you would do well to be less self-absorbed, as it tends to distance you a little, and to relinquish some of the control you exercise when you present that stylised version of yourself to others. You could let people in a little more, but I am aware that there is a darkness you feel you should hide (much of this is in the personal/relationship/sexual area, and is related to a neediness which you don't like).

Oooooooooh.

Originally Posted by Syco

Haha. Sorry but she made too many correct statements about me without being lead there and finished off too many of my sentences to be fraudulent.

No such thing as psychics. They're all frauds. It's all down to technique love. The thing is, you remember and focus all the true things she's said and none of the mistakes she's made. I guarentee that if I sat next to you in your psychic reading I could tell you every time she was fishing for something or trying to bullshit you. You're giving her money and she's thinking 'there's one born every minute' whilst you're doing it. Sorry to say but she is.

She also said I could expect to see a contract within the next one to two years, so I'll see if one arises then ey That's a big statement considering the music business in my country is horse shit.

Syco, seriously, how have you swallowed that??? It's one of the easiest predictions she could possibly have made!!! "Oooh, you're a girl trying to get a career in the music industry, I foresee that in the next two years you will see a contract...." I could have told you that girl! If you *saw* a contract, that wouldn't mean shit on her psychic abilities (because she doesn't have any).

Haha Tri, eat a dick, and Brew...come on mate, you're one of if not the biggest skeptic on the boards! Why WOULDN'T you disagree with me!

If you don't believe in the power of a psychic (yes some are bullshit) then you also don't believe in intuition or gut instinct so as I said before...eat a dick :P.

And god bless.