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    I saw "An Incovenient Truth" last night. It was such an incredible movie. Has anyone else seen it and care to discuss?

    The movie is basically all about global warming and Al Gore's fight for the environment throughout his career. It is honestly the best documentary I can remember seeing, and I love documentaries. It also got phenomenal reviews, which is rare for such a politically-charged subject.

    My main thing that I got from the movie was this: If you think that the science of global warming is in dispute, then you are wrong. Global warming is happening and we have to deal with it. It is not a theory; it's an actuality. The charts showing the astronomical rise in temperature in the last 50 years, the before and after pictures of glaciers receding over time, the projection of what will happen in another 50 years if we continue with the current trend . . . . also, the explanations of how politicians won't acknowledge the issue. It's just great. And of course, the U.S. is by far the greatest contributer in the world. We are in the best position to make a change, why is it that we don't do it?

    Anyway, aside from this movie making me SO sad that Al Gore isn't our president right now, it really inspired me. I think that high schools and colleges should show it in their science classes and have kids write reports about it.

    Here is the website for the movie: http://www.climatecrisis.net/

    Here's what the movie critics say about it, if that means anything to you:
    http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/inconvenie...?critic=columns


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    You realise this whole thing is just about Al Gore being an attention whore and satisfying his colossal ego.

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    That's a bit harsh Mal. I heard he was totally cereal about the whole thing.

    But yeah, I've no doubt the documentary does say a lot of important things, but man, it's Al Gore. I'm sure I made a topic about this film not too long ago.

    Go and see it I say.
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    You realise this whole thing is just about Al Gore being an attention whore and satisfying his colossal ego.
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    Ummm....no. I think he was just trying to bring attention to the issue of global warming and is bravely putting his face on the front field as a poster boy of the issue. And if he brings attention to the issue, who cares if it makes him look good in the meantime?

    Plus, he's been an environmentalist for decades and (believe it or not) that is a pretty brave stance for a politician to take in the States. A lot of people hate environmentalists and tree-huggers here.

    Let's sound it out....Glloooobbbbbbaaaallll WWaaarrrrrmmmiiiiinnngggg. I believe that is the subject of the movie (which, by the way, did you see?).

    Tangent: Why do people always complain when celebrities get involved in political issues? I actually don't mind that at all. Al Gore was able to make this movie and bring attention to the issue solely because he is Al Gore. And I admire his decision to do that, because he could obviously be apathetic and just enjoy his hundreds of millions acquired from google stock for the rest of his life. Instead, he is trying to do something to help people.

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    It would've been nice if Al Gore had actually done something when he was....y'know....like.....the VICE-PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED FUCKING STATES OF AMERICA!!! Y'know, maybe just being second in command of the world's most powerful nation would've been a good position for which to push his environmentalist agenda. But no, instead, the USA continued on it's merry way to causing close to 30% of the world's pollution.

    Thanks for nothing Mr Gore. Nice film though.
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    He actually did a lot when he was vice-president to help the evironment. I am sure he was doing as much as he thought he could. Vice-presidents can't exactly set policy all by themselves. Plus, there was a Republican Congress that time and they certainly would have pooped on any extreme administrative initiatives to reduce CO2, with all their constituents pressuring them to do so.

    How come the topic went from discussing global warming to all about Al Gore?

    Anyway, I just bought some of these energy saving lightbulbs online.

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    I've heard a lot of good things about it. Haven't seen it yet. I probably will at some point but not in a theater. Don't like theaters.

    I don't understand why people are so hard on Al Gore. Frankly, I'll take 10 Al Gores compared to the one Dick Cheney that we've got in office now. At least under Clinton's presidency the environment was part of the equation. Under Bush/Cheney, we've seen the decimation of environmental policy. The EPA has no teeth anymore and the environment doesn't get one tenth the play that big business does. Seems to me that Bush and Cheney would happily have every business rape the environment (well except for where they personally are) just as long as they and their cronies can make a damn buck.
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    Actually, the Clinton administration went a long way towards trying to clean up the damage Reagan did to regulations.

    ...Which was summarily used by BushCo. to wipe their asses on their way to Crawford for a little yard work.

    Do a little research before you start slinging the same old "AMERICA BAD!" crap.

    I sincerely hope Gore reconsiders running for president. I think he can win a second time.
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    Al Gore: Thank you, Mr. Mackey, students of South Park Elementary.. I'm here to educate you about the single biggest threat to our planet. You see, there is something out there which threatens our very existence and may be the end of the human race as we know it. I'm talking of course about... [a projector comes on and a picture of a monster appears] Manbearpig. [a beast with the legs and tail of a pig, the body and arms of a bear, and the face and upper-body posture of a man]

    Kyle: [softly, to Stan] Manbearpig? [Stan just turns his hands up and shrugs]

    Al Gore: It is a creature which roams the earth alone. It is half man, half bear, and half pig. Some people say that Manbearpig isn't real. Well, I'm here to tell you know, Manbearpig is very real, and he most certainly exists. I'm serial. Manbearpig doesn't care who you are or what you've done. Manbearpig simply wants to get you! I'm super-serial. [Mr. Mackey and Mrs. Garrison just look at each other.] But have no fear, because I am here to save you! And someday, when the world is rid of Manbearpig, everyone will say "Thank you, Al Gore. You're super awesome." The end.

    Mr. Mackey: [reappears and clips a little] Uhhh, ohhhkay, thank you Mr. Gore.[/b]
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    This thread is a perfect example of one of the two problems with the film: One, having your narrator be Al Gore gives it an unnecessary political slant. Second, the whole Katrina-Global Warming thing isn't really proven, where all the rest of the facts about Global Warming are.
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    bravely putting his face on the front field as a poster boy of the issue.
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    Yep, failed politicians are so brave.
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    It would've been nice if Al Gore had actually done something when he was....y'know....like.....the VICE-PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED FUCKING STATES OF AMERICA!!! Y'know, maybe just being second in command of the world's most powerful nation would've been a good position for which to push his environmentalist agenda. But no, instead, the USA continued on it's merry way to causing close to 30% of the world's pollution.

    Thanks for nothing Mr Gore. Nice film though.
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    He build his 1988 presidential campaign around the idea of enviromentalism. I would say that is about as much as he could do with the power he has been entrusted with so far.

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    It doesn't make him any more interesting though does it. Personally i think it's as bad as Michael Moore sticking his pasty fat arse all over films. Nice issues you've raised there Michael, but i am free to come to my own conclusions and ramming yours down my throat repeatedly does little to endear you or even bolster your argument.

    Fucking fat socialist.
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    This thread is a perfect example of one of the two problems with the film: One, having your narrator be Al Gore gives it an unnecessary political slant. Second, the whole Katrina-Global Warming thing isn't really proven, where all the rest of the facts about Global Warming are.
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    Yeah, but the issue is how the rising sea levels are going to completely fuck over places like India, and send them into a catastrophic economic and health downfall.

    Yet to see the movie, sounds good and I probably will see it at some point. But you guys bitching about it because Al Gore is behind it are unbearably retarded. Maybe you can grow up, ditch the cynicism, and learn how to think beyond narrow minded perspectives.
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    <div class='quotemain'>
    This thread is a perfect example of one of the two problems with the film: One, having your narrator be Al Gore gives it an unnecessary political slant. Second, the whole Katrina-Global Warming thing isn&#39;t really proven, where all the rest of the facts about Global Warming are.
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    Yeah, but the issue is how the rising sea levels are going to completely fuck over places like India, and send them into a catastrophic economic and health downfall.

    Yet to see the movie, sounds good and I probably will see it at some point. But you guys bitching about it because Al Gore is behind it are unbearably retarded. Maybe you can grow up, ditch the cynicism, and learn how to think beyond narrow minded perspectives.
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    I agree.

    I have noticed the same kind of reaction from people in my personal life who I tell I saw the movie. They immediately launch into a diatribe about Al Gore and assume that this movie is all for political reasons. AL Gore isn&#39;t running for president next term, as he&#39;s said. As you can find out in the movie, environmentalism has been one of his main passions in life for over 30 years. It really amazes me how judgmental people can be. I truly believe that he made this movie out of a sincere concern about the well-being of all humans, of our children&#39;s children.

    By the way, I think comparing it to Fahrenheit 911 is ridiculous. I saw both movies and there is absolutely NO comparison - in content, political motives, portrayal of Al Gore v. Michael Moore, and most importantly, in the TRUTH behind the movies. Al Gore&#39;s movie is TRUE, based on established facts. Michael Moore&#39;s was largely speculation and propaganda and stringing together a bunch of random, conveninent facts to support his theory, while ignoring other important ones.

    If people are going to rag on the movie, they should at least see it first.

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