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    Personally, i love essays. It's the essay outlines i hate.

    opur teacher give us this long as essay outline where you hafta put like every sentence of it into it. WHAT THE FUCK IS THE POINT OF THAT? I cant do it!

    Heres My working thesis. It's not stable yet, and i'm having trouble finding evidence from both novels

    Both power and wealth are the root of insecurity within oneself as proven throughout the characters in both of the literary works The Tempest and The Great Gatsby. The forces of financial and social prosperity are cause of more harm than good, leaving their hosts unfulfilled and searching endlessly for something to fill the void; be it love or dominance on a social level.

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    Heres My working thesis. It's not stable yet, and i'm having trouble finding evidence from both novels
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    I haven't read The Tempest, but your on the right track with your analysis of the Great Gatsby, i did an essay a on pretty much the same thing which went pretty well.
    You said you had a hard time finding evidence to do with how wealth and power how they are the root of insecurity, fulfillin their voids and crap in the book right?

    Starting with the character, here are some pointers:
    Gatsby's case is pretty clear, trying to join the upper-class aristocrats gave him a sense of belonging and power ( elaborate on that and his obsession and determination).
    Remember Jordan? Jordan seems completely disconnected from the world she is living in, she represent the new independent woman figure, more powerful, of the twenties but in her own search she finds that she is unhappy. Fitzgerald also doesn’t give her any background; she seems to be very alone. She gossips, cheats and even in some way tries to persuade Nick to have feelings for her, all in attempt to find someway to end her loneliness and achieve power.

    Nick seems to be striving to become the "well rounded-man" well duuh.. hoping this will give him power.

    Myrtle well.. she desperately wants to spoiled and see the world, hoping that will end her insecuritys.

    Daisy i don't really remember what triggered her insecurity, but it wasn't wealth anyway..

    As for the themes:
    There is also a very clear yeat subtle message about the American dream, that you can acquire happiness through wealth and power but it is not fulfilling and bla bla bla... also how east egg versus west egg, the different lifestyles and power... or something like that, I cant remember.

    Just elaborate on these points and there is a lot more to be found if you read through it again. Can't help you with the other book, but remember to compare, contrast and evaluate. Hope that helps
    ."..and are you still taunted and ignored by your circum-muthafuckin-stances?" Habibi

    I said what, what in the butt?

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    Argh, try not to use passive voice.
    "Better not take a dog on the space shuttle, because if he sticks his head out when you're coming home his face might burn up."

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    our teacher give us this long as essay outline where you hafta put like every sentence of it into it. WHAT THE FUCK IS THE POINT OF THAT?


    Both power and wealth are the root of insecurity within oneself as proven throughout the characters in both of the literary works The Tempest and The Great Gatsby. The forces of financial and social prosperity are cause of more harm than good, leaving their hosts unfulfilled and searching endlessly for something to fill the void; be it love or dominance on a social level.
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    1)I totally agree with you about the overdetailed outline.
    2)Your thesis might be better if it was more concise, ie:
    "Power and wealth are the root of insecurity in the characters in both The Tempest and The Great Gatsby." Etc, and perhaps not so many prepositions.
    "Once she drew, with one long kiss, my whole soul through my lips."

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    Argh, try not to use passive voice.
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    whats passive voice?

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    well my essay turned out pretty damn well....I wrote it pretty fast and it flows easily. Thanks for your help ppl.

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    Argh, try not to use passive voice.
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    whats passive voice?
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    When people write in passive voice makes essays really boring and inactive. For example, saying, "I was attending an event," would be passive voice. When you write you should always have your verbs doing something. The sentence should restructure to something along the lines of, "I circumvented my usual mundane life and attended an event." Usually if you have was/are in a sentence, the sentence sucks.
    "Better not take a dog on the space shuttle, because if he sticks his head out when you&#39;re coming home his face might burn up."

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    Isn&#39;t the Great Gatsby about the impossibility of achieving the American Dream? Or more generally the impossibly of achieving any utopic dream, because even when one obtains the object of this dream, it is inevitably not as good as one thought, and doesn&#39;t bring one the happiness one craved? - Hence why it was a utopia. So he becomes locked into a cycle of realising the things he thought would make him happy haven&#39;t, and hence he feels nothing ever will - so he goes mental etc.

    So it&#39;s not necessarily power and wealth, it&#39;s just the general pursuit of happiness that fucks Gatsby up?

    Also are power and wealth seperate? In a capitialist system, aren&#39;t the two inherently linked? In Daisy, doesn&#39;t Gatsby see something greater than power and wealth? He already has considerable power and wealth: he desires a higher form of happiness, which he ultimately feels is impossible to achieve, and hence RIP.

    Haven&#39;t read it for like 4 years tho. Remember thinking it was a bit overrated.

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    Gatsby&#39;s case is pretty clear, trying to join the upper-class aristocrats gave him a sense of belonging and power ( elaborate on that and his obsession and determination).[/b]
    Uh, no it didn&#39;t. As an example, According to one Frederick J. Hoffman, Gatsby &#39;gives these extravagent and vulgar and apparently pointless affairs but is not really a part of them and -so far as Nick can see- has no pleasure in them or in his guests.&#39; Gatsby has created it all in an attempt to woo daisy, money actually means very little to him, but he thinks it means the world to Daisy, so he acquires some. The actual world on the East coast doesn&#39;t interest him, neither does power, all he wants is love, and to relive his past with Daisy.

    "So he becomes locked into a cycle of realising the things he thought would make him happy haven&#39;t, and hence he feels nothing ever will - so he goes mental etc."

    Did he go mental? He fails to realise that he&#39;s built up an image of Daisy that she can&#39;t possibly live up to, and he also neglects the fact that she loves money (her voice is full of it), while money means nothing to him. It&#39;s the green light at the end of Daisy&#39;s dock that inspires his desires, that&#39;s what he aims for, and at the end, Nick explains how the green light could be a metaphor for the American dream, or the ability to change one&#39;s social class, regardless of one&#39;s background. I didn&#39;t think it was so much that he felt defeated, more that he just was defeated by the system.

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