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10-30-2009, 08:49 PM
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| SB Master  | Taking Adderall To Study I don't really want a lecture about how taking amphetamines to study is bad. I have some family problems going on and I simply can't concentrate, excuses whatever, I just know I can't afford to fail. But for those who have taken adderall, I have a few questions. I haven't really slept in two days- Am i going to crash significantly when it wears off if I take it now? I'm just not tired, I'm in a panic and when I try to sleep I just can't because I have too much to work on, I tried to take a nap today but I couldn't fall asleep. Too much stress  but I figured if I'm not sleeping, I may as well be studying.Obviously I'm not taking it for ADD or ADHD so how long should I wait in between doses? I was planning on taking at least two over the weekend. But I have just as much shit that keeps piling up and I'll be taking it again over the course of the month, is there a time period I should allow my body to recuperate/come down? I'm not going to crush it up and snort it so don't bother suggesting it or telling me not to.
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10-31-2009, 02:23 PM
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 | Why won't you crush it? Do you want to do drugs without feeling like you are? Taking adderal when you're having trouble sleeping is a bad idea. You may be studying but it's hardly going to be worth it because your brain needs it's sleep.
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10-31-2009, 06:54 PM
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And yeah taking it when I'm not sleeping IS a bad idea, but I wasn't going to be sleeping anyway because the past week I've become an insomniac. I actually got a decent 5 hours of sleep today after it wore off, whereas I've been lucky to get a solid 2 hours the previous nights.
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10-31-2009, 07:05 PM
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| I haven't taken adderall but from what I've heard, you feel really tired the next day. Also, adderall may help you focus to study, but without sleep it wont sink in. Take a hot shower or find some other way to relax, and go take a 45min nap then try to study again. You're better off studying an hour a day for a week than 7 hours in one day. I can't find the sources atm, but there's been studies that show that you regain specific functionality and learn certain things after an appropriate amount of time in theta state. The higher the brain function, the more time you need. If you need to cram, the best thing is to take an hour nap every 3 hours. Its not nearly enough, but the hour should be enough to recover your reading and writing ability and help take away the stress so that you can continue again. Last edited by cerel; 10-31-2009 at 07:08 PM. | ||||||||||||||
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10-31-2009, 07:44 PM
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| SB Master  Join Date: May 2003 Location: guess, mi amigo
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| Yup. Things sink into memory during sleep. If you're writing papers, this is moot, but if you're actually studying and memorizing things then you'll retain a lot more information more efficiently if you're able to sleep every so often. In this type of situation I'd recommend sleeping pills before adderall. It's counter-intuitive, but.. like I said, sleep is necessary to memory. Without sleep, you might think you're awake but it doesn't mean that everything you're studying won't slip out of your head come the test. So yes, you should give yourself sleep time. Not just because of memory benefits but because lack of sleep also weakens your immune system (want to get sick while you're trying to study?) and if you go too long, you'll start to hallucinate and really be in a shitty situation. Adderall won't keep that from happening. | ||||||||||||||
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10-31-2009, 09:00 PM
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| I would advise against sleeping pills if you have only a day or 2 before the test or whatever you're doing. Yes you need sleep but if you're well rested and don't know anything, you might as well not have done anything. That's why I suggested you take frequent naps, and sleeping pills might make you sleep the whole day away. Find a way to relieve the stress, shower, cocoa, beer, weed, whatever. If you have a week, then go for the sleeping pills. | ||||||||||||||
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11-01-2009, 02:56 AM
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| SB Master | So going of my experiences with adderall definitly try to get some sleep in. Do whatever you have to to get a little sleep. I felt like pure shit after two days of not sleeping and studying on Adderall. I had the jitters right before i went to bed. This was a combination of Adderall and caffeine....not a good idea. It hurt to fall asleep. I felt so much better afterward though. I don't see the point of studying while panicky. You are just too focused on panicking...if you are focused on that go for a run or do something to clear your mind. Make a schedule you can actually stick with and complete. It feels great to be able to cross shit out. That way you also wont feel like you wasted your adderall. |
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11-01-2009, 07:04 AM
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| Fuckin hell, don't take sleeping pills. WHat's wrong with you guys? The only real option is to not take any drugs to 'help you study' because they won't and you'll only end up feeling shitter than you do now. See if you can go and stay at a relative or friend's house so you can get away from whatever situation is making it hard to study. You aren't going to do yourself any favours popping pills. Haven't you ever seen the episode of Saved by the Bell where Jessie takes the pills to help her study and it all goes tits up?
__________________ The broad masses of a nation are always more easily corrupted in the deeper strata of their emotional nature than consciously or voluntarily; and thus in the primitive simplicity of their minds they more readily fall victims to the big lie than the small lie, since they themselves often tell small lies in little matters but would be ashamed to resort to large-scale falsehoods. It would never come into their heads to fabricate colossal untruths, and they would not believe that others could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously. Even though the facts which prove this to be so may be brought clearly to their minds, they will still doubt and waver and will continue to think that there may be some other explanation. For the grossly impudent lie always leaves traces behind it, even after it has been nailed down, a fact which is known to all expert liars in this world and to all who conspire together in the art of lying. These people know only too well how to use falsehood for the basest purposes... Adolf Hitler | ||||||||||||||
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11-01-2009, 12:58 PM
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|  I suggested sleeping pills because she said she'd been finding it impossible to sleep. Of course the sleeping pills are going to make her fall asleep, that's the point. | ||||||||||||||
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11-01-2009, 03:38 PM
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It seems to have a pretty bizarre beginning effect, apparently in ADD/ADHD people it helps them sleep while it does the opposite in normal people. Well during the first two hours its in my system I get really tired and want to take a nap. After about two hours, the fatigue wears off and then I am able to stay awake and focused for about 7 hours. I wonder if there's some sort of induced ADD that can develop over the years, as I've noticed my ability to concentrate has definitely gone downhill.
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11-01-2009, 03:55 PM
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| Check Erowid (i presume it's still going) it's a really good source of un-opinionated info on narcotics. It might be that the overtiredness has caused your brain to work in overdrive similarly to ADHD so the effects of the stimulant work in the same way on you. I think you need to show symptoms of ADHD over a long period (like a year) as so many 'sets and settings' can cause similar symptoms. and it's normally diagnosed by the age of 7, i wouldn't worry to much.
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11-02-2009, 06:41 AM
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| SB Master | Meditate.
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11-02-2009, 06:19 PM
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| Crazy shit. I just don't get it. I only take drugs to get high, not to sort my shit out.
__________________ The broad masses of a nation are always more easily corrupted in the deeper strata of their emotional nature than consciously or voluntarily; and thus in the primitive simplicity of their minds they more readily fall victims to the big lie than the small lie, since they themselves often tell small lies in little matters but would be ashamed to resort to large-scale falsehoods. It would never come into their heads to fabricate colossal untruths, and they would not believe that others could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously. Even though the facts which prove this to be so may be brought clearly to their minds, they will still doubt and waver and will continue to think that there may be some other explanation. For the grossly impudent lie always leaves traces behind it, even after it has been nailed down, a fact which is known to all expert liars in this world and to all who conspire together in the art of lying. These people know only too well how to use falsehood for the basest purposes... Adolf Hitler | ||||||||||||||
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11-04-2009, 11:57 PM
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| SB Master |  Whatever I mean, I was having family issues that you can't just leave the house and be fine. They stay with you. I was staying hours at school instead of coming home earlier, because I thought it might help me focus being away and it didn't. Because it was ALL i could think about. When you're that emotionally stressed out, it's just not going to matter. I hit a mental breaking point and I think I cried for like a week straight. I was in a pretty bad way.Of course, things are loads better now. So I'm able to do my homework Adderall free. I imagine the only other times I'll be using it is to pull all-nighters on papers and such. I don't really see why it's such a big deal. It's on the same level as marijuana for me, just like any drug, don't take tons of it, be responsible and you'll be fine.
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