2008 NBA Playoff Thread

[Tim]

How many times is ABC going to call Kobe the "best player on the planet?" The comparisons with Jordan are unwarranted.

Also, showing nothing but Kobe clips during each break, and talking almost exclusively about him as a game maker, when he has 22 points and Pierce has 38, more rebounds, and more assists, is pretty poor form.

[ameliaprincesa]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tim @ Jun 16 2008, 03:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

The comparisons with Jordan are unwarranted.[/b]

Seconded.

[Hella Skinny]

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The comparisons with Jordan are unwarranted.[/b]

They aren&#39;t necessary, and I think they are sort of demeaning. But Kobe is definitely as good a player as Jordan was, if that&#39;s what you mean. It&#39;s a pointless argument, though. I do think Pierce might be the best player in the NBA right now. I&#39;m not that into basketball. I think the Lakers will lose in 7.

The saga continues tonight.

[Tim]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Hella Skinny @ Jun 17 2008, 11:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

But Kobe is definitely as good a player as Jordan was-

I&#39;m not that into basketball.[/b]

obviously

[spike]

I was a huge Knicks fan throughout the &#39;90s. Nobody knows how freaking good Jordan was like Knicks fans. The Knicks threw everything they had at him every year. Beat the crap out of him, triple-teamed him, got in his face, didn&#39;t let him breathe, and he still killed the Knicks every year. I hated Jordan (still do mostly, because I think he&#39;s a soulless corporate whore, but that&#39;s another story) but he was so much better than any other player who has ever played it&#39;s not even close. Find me another shooting guard who can average 9 rebounds, 6 assists, 33 points on 53% field goal shooting in an era when the league let defenses beat the crap out of the offense.

The Kobe/MJ comparisons were always ridiculous, but this series has sealed it. (Kobe + 5) < MJ.

[Hella Skinny]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tim @ Jun 17 2008, 02:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Hella Skinny @ Jun 17 2008, 11:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

But Kobe is definitely as good a player as Jordan was-

I&#39;m not that into basketball.[/b]

obviously
[/b][/quote]

Like you could sit here and prove either one is better. you don&#39;t even watch NBA.

[Speed]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (spike @ Jun 17 2008, 04:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

Nobody knows how freaking good Jordan was like Knicks fans.[/b]

I beg to differ:

[Tim]

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tim @ Jun 17 2008, 02:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Hella Skinny @ Jun 17 2008, 11:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

But Kobe is definitely as good a player as Jordan was-

I&#39;m not that into basketball.[/b]

obviously
[/b][/quote]

Like you could sit here and prove either one is better. you don&#39;t even watch NBA.
[/b][/quote]

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Although Bryant has not quite reached the same point in his career that Jordan has, it is still safe to compare the honors and awards each player has earned throughout their playing days. While these achievements are not necessarily everything, it is definitely a significant piece of information. Jordan has six NBA championships to Bryant&#39;s three. Jordan has been named MVP five times. Bryant has zero MVPs to his name. Bryant has three scoring titles, but Jordan eclipses that number with ten. Bryant has been acknowledged for his defense by being named to the all-defense team multiple times, but Jordan has been elected best defensive player of the year, something Bryant has never done. Jordan made a direct impact on the game when he arrived to the league and was the NBA&#39;s rookie of the year in 1984. Bryant developed his game after a couple of seasons before making any impact on the league. Yes, some of these awards can be based on a popularity contest as well as a reflection of a team, not an individual.
In respect to Bryant, in recent years, he has accomplished feats Jordan never did. There are two most notable by fans. The first is the 81-point performance Bryant made in a single game. Jordan&#39;s closest game to that only left him with 69 points. The other remarkable achievement occurred this year when Bryant scored at least 50 points in four straight games. Throughout Jordan&#39;s illustrious career, he never reached this number. Although, Jordan did score at least 50 points in three straight games on multiple occasions.

Bryant does have those two statistical marks over MJ but unfortunately for him, there are not too many more he excels at over Jordan. Jordan averaged more points, assists, rebounds, steals and blocks throughout his career than Bryant has in his career.

Jordan&#39;s playoff numbers exceed Kobe&#39;s as well. Nobody has outscored Jordan in the playoffs, considering his average for points per game is higher than every other player in NBA history. Also, Jordan holds the record for the highest points per game average in a single playoff series as well as for the NBA Finals.

Stats may not be everything in the playoffs, but while MJ posted these astounding numbers, he also led his team to six titles in a single decade, recording six NBA Finals MVPs while doing it. In Kobe&#39;s three titles, he has no NBA Finals MVPS due to him, not even being the best player on his team at the time.

--Jordan won every single NBA Finals series he played in. Not once did he get shut down when it mattered the most.[/b]

[ameliaprincesa]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tim @ Jun 17 2008, 02:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Hella Skinny @ Jun 17 2008, 11:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

But Kobe is definitely as good a player as Jordan was-

I&#39;m not that into basketball.[/b]

obviously
[/b][/quote]
Seconded

[Esternogligen]

<div class=\'quotetop\'>QUOTE (Esternogligen @ May 29 2008, 07:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class=\'quotemain\'>Boston&#39;s going to beat Detroit and lose to whoever wins the West.[/b][/quote]
Never have I been so happy to be proven wrong.

In for pics of Kobe&#39;s "Wow, I guess I really can&#39;t win without Shaq..." face.

P.S.
Fuck Kobe

[Tim]

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GOOD BYE!!!!

[ameliaprincesa]

"I still don&#39;t have as many rings as Shaq."