Thread: We Never Gave Earth a Chance...

actually the end of your article there was the only real issue.

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Until our leaders really get together and decide to do something, we&#39;re basically screwed.[/b]

to quote Carlin: The Planet is fine, the PEOPLE are fucked.

the planet was here long before us, and will be here long after we&#39;re gone, and it&#39;ll be fine. We will disappear, not the planet, not until our galaxy goes nova (our sun being too small will collapse into a white dwarf).

So saying something like "We never the Earth a chance" is silly, we&#39;re a mere blip on the Earth&#39;s timetable a nothinginess to be discarded like a dog scratching a flea. The planet doesn&#39;t give a rat&#39;s ass about us.

Not that I am advocating destroying ourselves through pollution and destruction of the our environment. I think we should make every effort to do what is right concerning our abilities to remain a viable species in part of the biomass on this planet, I just don&#39;t presume that the ending of the human species is the "end of the world" just the end of our world.

I love people like you your always doom and gloom the sky is falling chicken little the sky is falling for real the government has in it&#39;s tonka toys machines that can clean the air and they have envested in human cloning and bio domes so that when the time comes they can select the few lucky fuckers to stick in a bubble for 1000 years durring this time the earth will heal it&#39;s self like it always has

the united states pays farmers not to farm the US by it&#39;s self supports a vast amount of the worlds food mainly because countires like Iraq , aftghan and a host more of these middle eastern countires farm weed that&#39;s right they grow weed feilds all over the place over hear one soldier went out on patrol and came back with his ruck sack full of weed now when people talk about the earth dying I say roll a fatty and get high because your fucking ass is going to die yeah it&#39;s not your fuckin problem either your going to dead long before the earth dies from anything

my favorite the global warming theory that shit&#39;s funny as hell dude to the fact that most people think that the earth is coming out of a ice age wouldn&#39;t it be normal for the earth to heat up?
also I would rather it be 70 all year around wouldn&#39;t you ? why do you think people like FL in the winter time bunch of dumb asses if you ask me

next time you want to complain about something total useless this is the place for it

yeah, that&#39;s great for you, you&#39;d like it to be 70 all year long, right? oh, who cares if the polar ice caps melt? who cares if fish in the ocean die becuase the water&#39;s too warm? hell, if ironman gets his year long summer, who cares what happens to allt he species who LIVE in the cold, eh?

give me some sources that say that global warming is NOT an issue, and I&#39;ll doube anytihng you can come up with. you give me five reliable sources, and I&#39;ll give you ten more.

Originally posted by Ironman@Feb 29 2004, 05:56 AM
I* love* people* like* you* * your* always* doom and* gloom* the* sky is* falling chicken little the sky is* falling* * * * for* real* * * the* government* has* in it&#39;s* tonka* toys* * machines* that* can* * clean* the* air* and* * they* have* envested in* human* cloning* and* bio* domes* * so* that* when* * the* time* comes* they* can* select* the* few* * * lucky fuckers* to stick in a* bubble* for* * 1000* years* * durring this* time the* earth* will* heal it&#39;s self* like* it always* has*

the* * united* states* pays* * farmers* not* to* farm* the* US* by* it&#39;s* self* supports* * a* vast* amount* of* the* worlds* food* mainly* because* countires* like* Iraq , aftghan* and a* host* more* of* these* middle* eastern* countires* farm* * weed* * that&#39;s* right* they* grow* * weed* feilds* * all* over the* place over hear* * one* soldier* went out on* patrol and* came* back with* his* ruck sack* full of* weed* now* when* people* * talk about* * the* earth dying* I* say* roll* a* fatty and* * get high* because* your* fucking ass* is* going to* die* yeah* * it&#39;s* not* your* fuckin* problem* either* your* going to* dead* long before the* earth* dies* from* anything*

* my* favorite* the global warming* theory* * * that* shit&#39;s* funny as* hell* * dude to the* fact that* most* people* think that* the* earth* is* coming out of* a* ice* age* * wouldn&#39;t* it* be* normal* for the* earth* to* heat* up?
also* * I* would* rather* it* be* 70* all* year around* wouldn&#39;t you ? why* * do you* think* people* like* FL* in the* winter* time* bunch* of* dumb asses* if* you* ask* me*

next time* you* want to* complain about* something* total* useless* * this* is* the* place for* it

You are so jingoistic it&#39;s scary.

A topic near and dear to my heart Tia.

And on many points I do agree. Our biggest problem with the earth is that we use it without really caring for it. In our quest for more, we don&#39;t stop and realize what this more may cost us.

As for the global warming Ironman, green house gases and the depletion of the ozone layer is not a myth generated by liberal tree hugging hippies. The Kyoto Accord wasn&#39;t written up because some scientists and politicians decided that it was a fun and new thing to try. It was written up because of the way that we are misusing and abusing our home planet.

And as long as you want 70 degree weather all year around I suggest you get used to massive amounts of insects. And I hope you don&#39;t like apples or pears and many other types of fruit... being that they require a certain number days of chilly temperatures to bear fruit.

Not to mention those roses and lilies you may or may not enjoy - without the chill of winter they will never develop the deep color or scent.

And of course if you enjoy any seafood I&#39;d rethink the 70 degree year around climate as well, simply because with that amount of temperature increase most of the cold water marine life will not survive.

Nature is a delicate balance of elements. Granted the earth is very resilient but we as humans are making it harder and harder for ecosystems to recover.

It&#39;s simple - we do need to take care of the earth. It is our responsibility. We are acting like kids who don&#39;t care about their rooms or their possessions. That attitude is biting us in the butt now. And it will continue to do so until we stand up and take care of what we must.

For an interesting read I suggest going to Shifting Baselines. It provides a good backround on what we have come to accept as normal and what normal really is.

Global Warming will happen and is happening, you are right ruby, it is not a myth. We just had temperatures of 40 - 42 degrees C (~110 F) here in Brisbane, and that was a very rare occurrence, even for the end of summer. The environment is becoming a passion of mine, and is part of the reason I am now doing Environmental Science as a comajor. I am hoping to do something positive in my career as a chemist in that area.

The decline of the Earth will not be rapid, it will still take a long time. I actually believe that by then, we will have the ability to live elsewhere in the solar system/galaxy, displacing the Earth as our only home. However, that is no reason to not look after what we have now.

Just wondering what you guys think is the number one problem? What is the most dangerous? I think the number one thing is industrial processes releasing gases, but the internal combustion engine we encounter every day also does some harm. It needs a substitute in the future.

global warming is definitely occuring. no doubt about it. there&#39;s evidence that the ozone layer naturally fluctuates. remember the ice ages? so i say that global warming would occur anyways, naturally. however....not to the extent that it will be happening, due to greenhouse gasses.

i am hugely concerned about pollution. but, i don&#39;t believe it&#39;s our biggest problem.

our biggest problem right now is overpopulation. NOTHING is being done for prevention (with the exception of china). we&#39;re just gonna follow our same old motto of &#39;fix it when it&#39;s a problem&#39;. but how the FUCK do you correct the problem of overpopulation? any solution that is not prevention will be BAD. but it&#39;s likely that we won&#39;t have to worry about that....mother nature has a way of showing us who&#39;s boss. as we clearcut out way into the rainforest, we&#39;ll discover the next Spanish Flu. think it was bad back then? people back in those days couldn&#39;t travel the world in a matter of hours. back then, there was no such thing as international airports. places where one infected person could spread the plague all over the world in a matter of days.

so anyways......bad shit will happen. anyone who thinks otherwise needs to WAKE THE FUCK UP.

I think the most dangerous is global warming. becuase if you want to get rid of global warming, you must lessen the amount of pollution in general, which will solve a lot of other problems we have, like smog issues and of course, the hole in the ozone, and (duh) global warming.

Maybe you haven&#39;t noticed Genix, but something is being done. Fertility rates among men have been dropping at an alarming rate. Our growth rate is dwindling. People aren&#39;t having 6-7 kids any more, they&#39;re having 1 or 2 or none. Also, as the world&#39;s population grows, so do farming technologies. We&#39;re not going to run out of food or room any time in the near future, and by the time that becomes a foreseeable problem, with current growth rate trends, we&#39;ll be in a population decline.

Originally posted by Slive Draver+Feb 29 2004, 05:31 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Slive Draver @ Feb 29 2004, 05:31 PM)</div>

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@Feb 29 2004, 05:56 AM
I* love* people* like* you* * your* always* doom and* gloom* the* sky is* falling chicken little the sky is* falling* * * * for* real* * * the* government* has* in it&#39;s* tonka* toys* * machines* that* can* * clean* the* air* and* * they* have* envested in* human* cloning* and* bio* domes* * so* that* when* * the* time* comes* they* can* select* the* few* * * lucky fuckers* to stick in a* bubble* for* * 1000* years* * durring this* time the* earth* will* heal it&#39;s self* like* it always* has*

the* * united* states* pays* * farmers* not* to* farm* the* US* by* it&#39;s* self* supports* * a* vast* amount* of* the* worlds* food* mainly* because* countires* like* Iraq , aftghan* and a* host* more* of* these* middle* eastern* countires* farm* * weed* * that&#39;s* right* they* grow* * weed* feilds* * all* over the* place over hear* * one* soldier* went out on* patrol and* came* back with* his* ruck sack* full of* weed* now* when* people* * talk about* * the* earth dying* I* say* roll* a* fatty and* * get high* because* your* fucking ass* is* going to* die* yeah* * it&#39;s* not* your* fuckin* problem* either* your* going to* dead* long before the* earth* dies* from* anything*

* my* favorite* the global warming* theory* * * that* shit&#39;s* funny as* hell* * dude to the* fact that* most* people* think that* the* earth* is* coming out of* a* ice* age* * wouldn&#39;t* it* be* normal* for the* earth* to* heat* up?
also* * I* would* rather* it* be* 70* all* year around* wouldn&#39;t you ? why* * do you* think* people* like* FL* in the* winter* time* bunch* of* dumb asses* if* you* ask* me*

next time* you* want to* complain about* something* total* useless* * this* is* the* place for* it

You are so jingoistic it&#39;s scary. [/b]

I fail to see the jingoism in that post.

Jingoism: Extreme nationalism characterized especially by a belligerent foreign policy; chauvinistic patriotism.

To put it more succinctly, jingoism is the idea "my country, right or wrong"

He just feels very strongly that conspiracy theorists are morons.

Originally posted by SpikeyMikey@Mar 2 2004, 01:06 AM
Maybe you haven&#39;t noticed Genix, but something is being done.* Fertility rates among men have been dropping at an alarming rate.* Our growth rate is dwindling.* People aren&#39;t having 6-7 kids any more, they&#39;re having 1 or 2 or none.* Also, as the world&#39;s population grows, so do farming technologies.* We&#39;re not going to run out of food or room any time in the near future, and by the time that becomes a foreseeable problem, with current growth rate trends, we&#39;ll be in a population decline.

the point is that we are overpopulated, NOW. we NEED a decline in population. not a decline in the growth rate. well we might as well chop down the rest of the rainforest to make room, huh? we have taken up enough fucking room. far more than our share as a species.

Ok..Slight problem here. Its all very well and good bitching to imaginary people on the internet...But looking at people in General..We have no potential world leaders here, and as such your ranting is pointless. Find a place where this kind of thign has an effect, like the News, or in public. Or better yet, write a letter to your governemtn and tell them your startling news, Im sure they&#39;ll rush to follow all your suggestions...

Now don&#39;t get me wrong, Im as worried about the state of the planet as the next guy....But internet rants are not the best place to vent your energies.


Here endeth the Lesson

but you never know who is reading on the internet. with that logic, the internet is meaningless. it helps nobody. therefore, nobody should ever bother saying anytihng on the internet becuase nobody cares.

WHAT?